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qwzx
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Smooosh
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Third-wave feminism is against gender equity

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Started: 4/12/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Debating Period
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qwzx

Pro

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Smooosh

Con

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Debate Round No. 1
qwzx

Pro

We have all heard from the left about how, feminism is all about gender equality and gender equity. This definition that the left clings to is CORRECT....if we were still living in the 1950s. The third wave feminist movement has moved on from the basic principle that have guided the first and second waves. It has rather become a mean, spiteful, and man hating philosophy based off on not building up women but tearing down men.

Not only do we see the replacement of peaceful protests with violet demonstrations such as the attack on women during Life-day. We currently see the result of such a transition in polls and figures done by many institutes. Women are abandoning feminism at an alarming rate not because of their supposed sudden transformation into racist and sexist bigots. These polls asked women if they supported gender equality and if they supported the third wave feminist movement. 85% of people when asked in the polls said that they support gender equality HOWEVER, only 18% of people said that they supported the third wave feminist movement.

If, feminism in truly about equity as they claim, WHY wouldn't these people give the same answer to both poll questions. These polls are not done by some unreliable alt-right sources such as Breitbart. These polls are done by Vox, Huffington Post, CNN, etc. Modern day feminism is hated so much because they say one thing but, do another. My opponent might mention that women wouldn't want to be labeled as a feminist. In which my response is why and how did feminism get such a bad reputation if it wasn't for their actions and beliefs.

Todays feminists are hypocrites in every sense o the word. My opponent would likely attempt to frame these debate as a force of good vs evil, equality vs oppression, etc. However, this is simply not the case as we see multiple deliberately misleading lies and actions done by third-wave feminism in an attempt to attack men and other women dissenters.

We see their championship of the debunked gender pay-gap statistic and their completely unproven "1 in 4" rape culture data. Their magical concept of the modern day patriarchy conspiracy theories which deprives young women of the chance to improve on their failures and succeed in life. Feminism tells everyone that women are some oppressed class in America and demand laws to help themselves and punish all those who disagree with their agenda.

Feminists lobbies the government for more affirmative action policies at college campuses and high-income workplaces. In reality, women have 2 to 1 advantage over men when applying for STEM jobs and are graduating college with more bachelors, masters and PHDs at a much more higher rate that their male counterparts. We see them demanding that women be entered into more STEM fields when, in reality women tend to avoid this type of expertise.

The more developed a country is, the less percentage of women are willing to find a STEM job. Women tend to dominate fields of the arts and humanities not because there is some evil cult of straight white men secretly hypnotizing the women to be forced into homemaker positions but because of choice. This lack of women in the STEM field, combined with women's tendency to take more vacations, work less hours LEADS to the supposed "gender wage gap".

My opponent may perhaps mention gender stereotypes and how they affect women's choices however, my opponent must explain why the evil patriarchy would discourage women from physics BUT not veterinary sciences. The supposed "wage gap" couldn't even be called a wage gap, the statistic is calculated when you take the average annual income and do basic division. If you look by the hour for the same job at the same location, BOTH genders are equal in pay.

Simple economics can debunk this whole patriarchy and gender pay-gap argument. IF, corporations can get away with paying women less for equal amounts of work and labor, then why wouldn't companies just fire all their male employees and exclusively hire women.

ALL companies want to maximize income and profit, that is the nature of capitalism. Perhaps you may note that sexism would prevent companies from hiring women however even that is not the case. The 1800s were a time of gender inequity but that did not stop companies from hiring exclusively women in sweatshops and other factories.

This modern-day movement cares little of fairness or equality of opportunity but focuses completely on equality of outcome. Now, my opponent might protest citing arguments about how these feminists are just "militant" feminists but, unfortunately that is not the case. The feminist leadership and figures around the world openly support these lies and advocate attacks on males.

People like Gloria Steinem are the new leaders and faces of this movement. While feminism itself is an ideology, third wave feminism is classified as a movement. A movement is best defined by it's followers. To attack men and delegitimize their status in society to bring about a "equality of outcome" does not bring about social progress but reverse sexism.

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Posted by Smooosh 9 months ago
Smooosh
I'm sorry, I was to busy at work to complete this debate. If you're willing, I would like to revisit this debate when I have more time!
Posted by TheBenC 9 months ago
TheBenC
Have you ever seen feminists protest to get more men's shelters to help the poor and mentally ill men of the world?

If you say no then you have all of the proof you need.
Posted by qwzx 9 months ago
qwzx
gender EQUITY (AKA fairness)
Posted by Mfuss 9 months ago
Mfuss
Gender equity or gender equality?
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