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This House [Strongly] Condemns The Use Of Recreational Cannabis!

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Started: 2/17/2015 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Ajabi

Pro

Welcome!

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Resolved: This House [Strongly] Condemns The Use of Recreational Cannabis*!
*In any amount, no matter how small.

Premise: I believe the topic speaks for itself. I shall be arguing that cannabis, and all its derivations such as marijuana should not be used recreationally. This is not a practical debate in so far as I shall not argue, in particular, that it be banned, however I shall argue that it ought to be condemned, and disproved strongly. I shan't argue for an overdose, but all doses, and so I shall argue that any amount, within reason (so not just one puff your entire life, but lets say one bong every week or two weeks) is harmful and should be repudiated.

The main burden of proof lies with the Proposition.

The first round is for acceptance only. I shall begin in the second round, and no new arguments shall be entertained after the first round. You may only post new arguments in the first debate round (2nd round) and may only expand later on. You may make rebuttals but no new arguments.
That1User

Con

I accept and I thank Ajabi for creating this debate. Good luck!
Debate Round No. 1
Ajabi

Pro

I thank That1User for accepting, I hope that this turns out to be a fun, and thought provoking debate. In essence I have accepted the onus that cannabis use should be discouraged so long as it is used recreationally. I once more remind the voters that in the "Premise" I clarified a "small amount" as a no matter how reasonably small amount. So one puff in a lifetime does not cut it, I would be quite disheartened if That1User played on semantics or trolled this debate, as I hope it to be a serious discussion. With that, lets begin with one last note: I was in a lot of pain so I took some pain killers, if my writing seems a bit broken, I apologize. Please don't cut S and G unless its really bad. :P

INTRODUCTION

Hitherto it has been assumed that cannaboids are not detrimental to mental or physical health. Constantly advertisements have exhibited marijuana and other such narcotics as nothing but plants, and while their medical uses have been celebrated, it seems that people have ignored the serious threats they post to one's health. I will in this debate attempt to show that cannabis harms the mental health, and it is on this premise that I wish to condemn its recreational use.

Ergo this debate will fall on one issue, and one issue alone: whether the harm value of cannabis outways the good value. Since this is not a legal debate, we do not need to discuss freedom of choice: we are not talking about legislating cannabis, only comdeming it, as we may condemn smoking cigarettes. The main point of discussion is that there are people who believe that marijuana is not harmful, that is untrue. So lets see what provides greater utility: not smoking marijuana or smoking it.

THE TRUE STATISTICS ON CANNABIS USE

They say marijuana can be used in moderation, though just as most people do not know that the recommended maximum dosage of alcohol is 21 units; most people also do not know that an excess of cannabis is considered 3 average sized bongs a week[1]. This is considered over-dosage which can seriously affect one within 12 months [the study of 12 months will be talked about below]. In fact the "safe" dosage is no where near that high and is only 350 mg of THC in 7 days. Compare this to a single average bong which can contain 200mg to 750 mg of THC.[1][2]

Almost unanimously doctors agree that developing brains should not take cannaboids. This means anyone below the age of 19-23 should not take cannabis. Even then a staggering "92% of youth has reported use of cannabis 'in the past year' and 16% report 'daily use'.[1] While it has been shown (Miller P. et al 2001) that around 32% of adults over dose of cannaboids. This is the true tragedy.

In 2005, 160 million people reported using cannabis (4% of the world population) which is 10% more than it was in the 1990s.[3] In the United States 40% of the adult population reports cannabis use.

I want these statistics to be clear when I talk about cannabis harm because its important to know that the harm is affecting all these people. The studies which have shown proper cannabis harm are new, and while many were released in November, and July, only now have they been confirmed, and only now have collections of these studies been compared by other doctors in peer-reviewed journals (the studies were published in journals in 2014).

KILLING ME SOFTLY WITH HIS SONG, TELLING MY WHOLE LIFE WITH HIS SONG (hint: Roberta Flack)

It seems appropriate to start with adolescents. As I have said 92% reported use in the last year alone. That means that 9 out of 10 of your friends have used marijuana, and every 9th friend is using it every single day. This is because 16% is using it regularly everyday. In this day and age there is a growing level of teenage depression, anxiety, and suicidal rates. According to studies 1 in 12 teens attempt suicide in their adolescenes, where as 1 in 4 have given it thought. Around 10% of teens and children now have serious anxiety disorders, while a staggering 18% adolescents have general anxiety.[4][5]

Here is something you probably did not know now. Of those who are institultionaized 51% reported usage of regular cannabis (more than 400 mg of THC/week), and this number should have been sufficiently smaller since only 19% report regular usage of cannabis. This shows a trend where cannbais users are more likely to be institutionalized due to psychosis. Not to mention that 10% of schizophrenia cases where genetics should not have come to play are due to cannabis use.[6][7]

Cannabis has been shown to raise the chances of anxiety, depression, and cause psychosis. It also speeds up genetic schizophrenia considerably. As one neuroscientist writes: 'Marijuana abuse during adolescence may produce enduring changes in brain function, particularly in individuals at a greater risk for developing psychiatric disorders. Scientific research suggests that repeated marijuana use during adolescence can increase the risk for psychosis, decrease adulthood IQ, and lead to changes in the brain that increase vulnerability to more dangerous illicit drugs.'[8]

Another study which took reports this. "A total of N = 267 studies were identified from a systematic literature search (any time- March 2013) of Medline and PsycInfo databases, and a hand search. The results of 31 studies (with prospective cohort or cross-sectional designs using non-institutionalised cases) were analysed using a random-effects meta-analysis with the inverse variance weights. Lifetime or past 12-month cannabis use, anxiety symptoms, and cannabis use disorders (CUD; dependence and/or abuse/harmful use) were classified according to DSM/ICD criteria or scores on standardised scales."

The results were positive, and official conclusion presented is "Anxiety is positively associated with cannabis use or CUD in cohorts drawn from some 112,000 non-institutionalised members of the general population of 10 countries."[9] The [1] study also reports that "Cannabis use is related to emotional distress, depression, and lack of a sense of purpose [54]. In addition, cannabis can (G.K. Shapiro, L. Buckley-Hunter / Journal of Psychosomatic Research 69 (2010) 533–539 535) interfere with learning and personal development in teenagers. Short-term memory is impaired by the use of cannabis [55] and in particular the impact on cognitive function is more severe in younger users."

In the end my head is hurting though I believe that these studies successfully show a correlation between cannaboids and serious health issues such as anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts. Because recreational cannabis is used simply for "fun" purposes and does have a "down" when one feels immediate distress (which makes one want to take more) we highly condemn the use of recreational cannabis.


[1]http://www.uniad.org.br...
[2]http://en.wikipedia.org...
[3]UNODC 2007 [the link automatically downloads so I cant post it because its a link to my computer]
[4]http://www.adaa.org...
[5]http://www.nimh.nih.gov...;
[6]http://bjp.rcpsych.org...
[7]http://www.nature.com...
[8]http://www.brainfacts.org...
[9]http://www.biomedcentral.com...
That1User

Con

That1User forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Ajabi

Pro

I will skip this round, and I ask the forfeit not be considered.
That1User

Con

INTRODUCTION
I thank Ajabi for creating this debate and I shall be arguing that using recreational cannabis should not be condemmed because one is not using recreational alcohol/tabacco. More specifically I will be arguing that the good value of using recreational cannabis over alcohol and tabacoo is more beneficial than using recreational alcohol and tabacco, for if recreational cannabis is condemmed people will more likely turn to alcohol or tabacco to get their drug fix.

Case:
Moderate use of Cannabis can lead to multiple health benefits including relieving pain, helping people with PSTD forgetting about their painful memories, nasea treatment, stimulant on appetiate, asthma medication, glaucoma medication, and sleep aid, as well as helping cure cancer, or stop its development. (http://www.leafscience.com...) (http://www.medicaldaily.com...) (http://www.businessinsider.com...)

There is also a feeling of relaxation when someone is "high" on cannabis. Compare this to the rise of violence and abuse of drinking alcohol (http://www.news.com.au...)

In fact, cannabis has been shown as a safer drug and is confirmed by multiple news sources and a scientific report. ( http://www.washingtonpost.com...) (http://www.independent.co.uk...) (http://bgr.com...) (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...)

In conclusion, cannabis use should not be condemed because it may indirectly encourage alcohol use. Cannabis use should also not be condemmed because it has more health benefits than alcohol and tabbaco, and cannabis use has less dangerous consequences than alcohol use. Therefore, cannabis use should not be condemmed, instead, alcohol (and tabbaco) use should be more strongly condemmed.
Debate Round No. 3
Ajabi

Pro

Ajabi forfeited this round.
That1User

Con

Ajabi has forfeited this round, but I also have forfeited a round. I thus ask the voters to only consider Ajabi's opening argument and my rebuttal.
Debate Round No. 4
27 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by Ajabi 2 years ago
Ajabi
That case is a little short, no? o.o
:P
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
Thanks Ajabi!
Posted by Ajabi 2 years ago
Ajabi
Oh I just saw this tell ya what, write your argument we'll make this a two round debate. :) Ill post after a day that will give you an extra day to write your argument.
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
Sorry for forfeiting Ajabi, I simply did not have enough time to do a 2 day debate. If it was three days however I would probably have enough time.
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
My computer is keep on freezing up, may we please nullify this debate and do another one?
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
I'm being serious, the statistics and the sources are scary, I don't think I can refute them in under than 2 hours.
Posted by Ajabi 2 years ago
Ajabi
lol I cant tell if you're mocking me or being serious...
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
I'm busy and your argument is too good for me.
Posted by Ajabi 2 years ago
Ajabi
...
Why, what happened?
Posted by That1User 2 years ago
That1User
I can't argue against this case, I may have to forfeit.
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