This poet is a better poet than Seamus Heaney
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Seamus Heaney has no passion he has no music he has no emotion Seamus Heaney would be boring in bed
Seamus Heaney is a fine example of what is wrong with poetry now it is all clever -with no soul all words -with no music all boring with no passion no emotion
how could such a boring poet win the Noble Prize
by Seamus Heaney
A rowan like a lipsticked girl.
Between the by-road and the main road
Alder trees at a wet and dripping distance
Stand off among the rushes.
There are the mud-flowers of dialect
And the immortelles of perfect pitch
And that moment when the bird sings very close
To the music of what happens
this poem is lifeless no music yet he speaks of music it is dead all in his head no soul or heart dead boring
yet this poet is alive with passion with music with emotion
[to be understood through an aesthetics of anti-poetry]
NIGHT FLOWER -from Evil Flowers
Oh dark beauty of the starless night,
Who's steel grey eyes flash with light,
Bend o'er me thy heaving chest
That I may suck from it's copper-tipped fruit
The henbane that is sweet milk to my breast.
Let it's poisons burn up my pulsing veins;
Such that my flesh doth crawl with pain.
Ah! dark flower of the starless night,
Alluring black orchid with a musk-scented light,
Place o'er me thy voracious, black-bearded mouth,
Thy sweet dripping, pheromone-scented fount,
Enclose me in thy blooted blood red lips,
Crush me in thy libidinous embrace.
Oh! dark flower of the starless night,
Dissolve my soul in thy noxious musk,
Suck out my essence with all thy might,
Leave me an emptied, pallid lifeless husk
Oh! give me such bliss, oh such delight,
Oh! dark flower of the starless night.
Until then, I'll be waiting,
"And remember burden of proof is on you as prop."
I have compared Heaney and dean with examples
and shown Heaney has no music no passion no emotion
con admitts this when
]"Next up, you say that his poems lack emotion, well, someone who reads only poems about lust may come to that conclusion. No, poetry doesn't always require emotion, especially when theming is used.Heaney used themes .... is difficult to assign an emotion...is poems often mention the tension he suffers and how he is unable to express emotion, "
" I assume you're jealous of his Nobel Prize, but understand when a poet of writer receives the prize when his work is seen as a gift to literature. Erotic poetry is not a gift to literature"
that shows the getting of a Nobel Prize is based on peoples hang up and political bias
if the Nobel Prize was based on MERIT and not taste writing about excrement farting or pissing could get a Nobel Prize
"Heaney used themes such as Childhood, Change, Family and Memory, looking back on his past which shaped him in a nostalgic manner, which is difficult to assign an emotion when you lived in a Troubled Northern Ireland"
that is why I said "a Nobel Prize is based on ...and political bias"
the establishment love all that stuff he writes as it is so politically correct about themes such as Childhood, Change, Family and Memory
"So I'll be defending a national treasure today"
Heaney is only a national treasure because he writes the kind of stuff you want to hear about
""Childhood, Change, Family and Memory, looking back on his past which shaped him in a nostalgic manner, which is difficult to assign an emotion when you lived in a Troubled Northern Ireland"
if Heaney wrote about excrement farting or pissing no matter how good his "metaphor, simile and various other poetic methods" were you would not be interested in him
as I said you can see the contrast between Heaney and dean one is musical passion and emotion
the other dry in his head emotionless -boring
reading dean out aloud you sing your heart beats to the passion you come alive
reading Heaney out aloud
you just say emotionless boring words you just come across as a dead fish
as I said Heaney would be so boring in bed
"But the Nobel Prize for literature was granted to him on the basis of what the Nobel committee described as works of lyrical beauty and ethical depth,"
note it says
what a joke
How could the Nobel prize committee have the nerve to call Heaneys poetry lyrical-his poetry is as far from being lyrical than mere prose is
lyrical defined to be
Adj.1.lyrical - suitable for or suggestive of singing
melodic, melodious, musical - containing or constituting or characterized by pleasing melody; "the melodious song of a meadowlark"
2.lyrical - expressing deep emotion; "the dancer's lyrical performance"
emotional - of more than usual emotion; "his behavior was highly emotional"
as my example shows
point 1 Heaneys poems are not suggestive of singing -yet dean are- Heaney just strings clever words together which have no music no melodies but deans poetry does sing has melodies
point 2 you admit Heaney has no emotion-yet dean has
"Heaney used themes .... is difficult to assign an emotion...is poems often mention the tension he suffers and how he is unable to express emotion, ""
as I showed
"reading Heaney out aloud
you just say emotionless boring words you just come across as a dead fish"
and the Nobel committee have the gall to say his poetry is lyrical
Thus I have shown why dean is a better poet than Heaney-ie more passion more music
even the Nobel committee prize lyricism-which dean is and as I have shown Heaney is not
Con has his given his reason why Heaney is a better poet than dean ie his lyricism
but I have shown with example and cons own words why Heaney is not lyrical
thus I have supported my case
where con has not adequately proven his case
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