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shakuntala
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doomswatter
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This surreal love poem has great imagery

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doomswatter
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/3/2014 Category: Arts
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 714 times Debate No: 55747
Debate Rounds (3)
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shakuntala

Pro

I argue that This surreal love poem has great imagery -by Australia s leading erotic poet colin leslie dean

http://www.scribd.com...

if you dont read the poem then it is pointless debating

example
breasts rounded like ripe fruit bring me thy buttocks round like these dunes that shimmer in glittering light oh come beloved bring thy breasts soft like twin hills of rose pink petals

flower petals of translucent fire like dry yellow straw am I consumed in fiery light my lips desire my limbs desire the groin of I burns like a red kiln of fire ripples of roses flashing burning flames of transparent yellow light exfoliate along the flesh of I
doomswatter

Con

I'm not sure if I should feel guilty for this, but I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
shakuntala

Pro

I take it you have read the poem
so I ask
do you think this line is full of great surreal imagery
"ripples of roses flashing burning flames of transparent yellow light exfoliate along the flesh of I
doomswatter

Con

I will start by saying that, yes, I have read the poem, and I do think that line is kind of cool. However, that's irrelevant to the debate. I am not going to concede the debate without argument.

My opponent has the BoP in showing that the referenced poem has "great" imagery. If I can show that my opponent has not fulfilled the burden, I win the debate.

Some definitions of "great", from http://dictionary.reference.com... :
1. unusually or comparatively large in size or dimensions.
2. large in number; numerous.
3. unusual or considerable in degree, power, intensity, etc.
4. wonderful; first-rate; very good.
5. being such in an extreme or notable degree.

Unless my opponent can supply proof that the poem's imagery fits at least one of these definitions, the resolution is negated.

Good luck, Pro.
Debate Round No. 2
shakuntala

Pro

This debate is whether this This surreal love poem has great imagery
con admits he found the line cool Thus he loses by admitting that he thinks the imagery is cool
con says
""I will start by saying that, yes, I have read the poem, and I do think that line is kind of cool. However, that's irrelevant to the debate. I am not going to concede the debate without argument."

I thank con for his honesty -even though it meant that he lose the debate
doomswatter

Con

Pro seems to thinks that "cool" = "great", but gives no evidence or definition that proves such an assertion.

Pro has given no arguments to support his resolution that the imagery contained in the poem is great, so I have nothing to rebut

Vote Con.

Off the Record: Pro, if all you really want is to have your poem critiqued and reviewed, I suggest you try a poetry or creative writing community, such as allpoetry.com. Or, at least, try the forums.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by alexmiller887 3 years ago
alexmiller887
Course he is.
Posted by Ajab 3 years ago
Ajab
Also Blade never said it was no good, it is a wonderous poem, he said it was not "that" good, which means let not compare it to Keats. While I think you may be Leslie and you have these ideas and poems and that is good sometimes....I dont know, in any case blade stated it was not 'that good" he never said it was "no good".
Posted by Ajab 3 years ago
Ajab
shakuntala are you colin leslie??
Posted by LifeMeansGodIsGood 3 years ago
LifeMeansGodIsGood
this is self-indulgent garbage.
Posted by shakuntala 3 years ago
shakuntala
you say
"That poem wasn't even THAT good"
so why is the poem no good
Posted by Blade-of-Truth 3 years ago
Blade-of-Truth
That poem wasn't even THAT good. I'll take this in a few days if no art students or art people want to take it.
Posted by CJKAllstar 3 years ago
CJKAllstar
Urgh, not you again.
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Vote Placed by Romanii 3 years ago
Romanii
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Reasons for voting decision: "Cool" does not equate to "great".