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Throughout history, Islam is the most violent religion

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Started: 2/17/2015 Category: Religion
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npeterso2018

Con

First round is acceptance.

This debate will be about the following statement: "Throughout history, Islam is the most violent religion."

I will be arguing against this statement, but I will not be arguing for any religion being the most violent.

I am new to debating, so I hope to debate someone who is also new to debating.

Once again, FIRST ROUND IS ACCEPTANCE
Royal-Sovereign

Pro

I would like to accept this debate. Over to you
Debate Round No. 1
npeterso2018

Con

Thank you, Royal-sovereign, for accepting this debate. I hope to learn much about religious violence.

Points:

[1] Muslim terrorists use their religion as an excuse to gain power

[2] Many wars have been fought over religion

[3] The majority of Muslims are generally non-violent people.

[1] Let's face it: everyone likes power. Islamic terrorists use their religion as an excuse to terrorize people who don’t submit to their rule and/or ideology. They follow the Quran to an extreme level.

Here is a quote from the Quran: “Fight them until there is no more [people not worshipping God] and worship is for God alone.” Muslim terrorists, when conducting terror attacks, use passages like this as an excuse to commit terror attacks. The terrorists force their victims to submit to their power, or agree with their radical views. The punishment for not submitting to them could be death, or some other undesirable fate.

A lot of times, terrorism can be profitable (i.e., ransoming hostages). A large portion of the Middle East (where people are mostly Muslim) is impoverished. Poor men can become terrorists to get money, they could then support their families. Islamic terrorists often come from volatile/violent regions of the world, where they would like to gain fame/infamy, fortune, and “absolution from sins in the eyes of God.” (passage into heaven, according to their belief)

[2] Religion has always been a violent topic. Not just Islam, but all religions. Let’s take a look at some historic religious wars, where Muslims were not the aggressors:

-The Crusades: Sanctioned by the Catholic church, at least 7 were fought against Islam. All for Christianity. According to this source, 1-3 million deaths occurred as a result of the crusades. Back in the Middle Ages, that was a pretty significant number of casualties (and it still is today)

-The Buddhist uprising: In the 1960s in Vietnam, there was a Buddhist revolt that aimed to overthrow a Catholic government.

-The Reconquista: Catholics targeted Muslims in Spain, and committed atrocious acts against them, and expelling them form the Iberian peninsula.

-The Huguenot Massacres: The Huguenots were Protestants living in a Catholic controlled France. The Catholic French killed tens of thousands of Huguenots.

-Hindu-Christian conflicts in India: Since the age of Imperialism, Christians and Hindus have been fighting each other.

The point to take away from this is all pretty much religion is violent.

[3] There are 1.6 BILLION Muslims on Earth. That is roughly 22% of the Earth’s population. If Islam was a violent religion, then there would be a lot more violence in the name of Islam. Not just terror attacks. Terror WARS. ISIS would be in a much better position than they are now. It is estimated that they have 200,000 troops max. With 1.6 billion people supporting them, then they would probably have more than 200,000 troops!

Terrorism is associated with Islam. If Islam (as a religion) truly did support terrorism violence, then there would be MILLIONS of terrorists, not just a couple hundred thousand. After all, there are 1.6 billion Muslims

Therefore, Islam is not the most violent religion. I conclude by writing that terrorism can be seen as lucrative to impoverished Muslims, most religions encourage violence, and there are a lot of non-violent Muslims living on Earth.

Okay, Royal-Sovereign, it is your turn!!!



Sources:

http://jicj.oxfordjournals.org...

http://povertydata.worldbank.org...

http://addictivelists.com...

http://en.wikipedia.org...

http://www.independent.co.uk...

Royal-Sovereign

Pro

Royal-Sovereign forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
npeterso2018

Con

So... It looks like I have no argument to make a rebuttal for...

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Vote Con!
Royal-Sovereign

Pro

Thank you, npetero, for this debate. I hope to learn much about religious violence.

Points:

[1] Muslim terrorists use their religion as an excuse to gain power

[2] Many wars have been fought over religion

[3] The majority of Muslims are generally non-violent people.

[1] Let's face it: everyone likes power. Islamic terrorists use their religion as an excuse to terrorize people who don"t submit to their rule and/or ideology. They follow the Quran to an extreme level.

Here is a quote from the Quran: "Fight them until there is no more [people not worshipping God] and worship is for God alone." Muslim terrorists, when conducting terror attacks, use passages like this as an excuse to commit terror attacks. The terrorists force their victims to submit to their power, or agree with their radical views. The punishment for not submitting to them could be death, or some other undesirable fate.

A lot of times, terrorism can be profitable (i.e., ransoming hostages). A large portion of the Middle East (where people are mostly Muslim) is impoverished. Poor men can become terrorists to get money, they could then support their families. Islamic terrorists often come from volatile/violent regions of the world, where they would like to gain fame/infamy, fortune, and "absolution from sins in the eyes of God." (passage into heaven, according to their belief)
[2] Religion has always been a violent topic. Not just Islam, but all religions. Let"s take a look at some historic religious wars, where Muslims were not the aggressors:

-The Crusades: Sanctioned by the Catholic church, at least 7 were fought against Islam. All for Christianity. According to this source, 1-3 million deaths occurred as a result of the crusades. Back in the Middle Ages, that was a pretty significant number of casualties (and it still is today)
-The Buddhist uprising: In the 1960s in Vietnam, there was a Buddhist revolt that aimed to overthrow a Catholic government.

-The Reconquista: Catholics targeted Muslims in Spain, and committed atrocious acts against them, and expelling them form the Iberian peninsula.

-The Huguenot Massacres: The Huguenots were Protestants living in a Catholic controlled France. The Catholic French killed tens of thousands of Huguenots.

-Hindu-Christian conflicts in India: Since the age of Imperialism, Christians and Hindus have been fighting each other.

The point to take away from this is all pretty much religion is violent.

[3] There are 1.6 BILLION Muslims on Earth. That is roughly 22% of the Earth"s population. If Islam was a violent religion, then there would be a lot more violence in the name of Islam. Not just terror attacks. Terror WARS. ISIS would be in a much better position than they are now. It is estimated that they have 200,000 troops max. With 1.6 billion people supporting them, then they would probably have more than 200,000 troops!

Terrorism is associated with Islam. If Islam (as a religion) truly did support terrorism violence, then there would be MILLIONS of terrorists, not just a couple hundred thousand. After all, there are 1.6 billion Muslims

Therefore, Islam is not the most violent religion. I conclude by writing that terrorism can be seen as lucrative to impoverished Muslims, most religions encourage violence, and there are a lot of non-violent Muslims living on Earth.

Back to you npetero
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
I did... I really did :)
Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
" :) z
Posted by Royal-Sovereign 2 years ago
Royal-Sovereign
Con just got owned
Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
Jasperps is a TROLL
Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
He's a little extreme
Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
lol jasper
Posted by Jasperps 2 years ago
Jasperps
Sorry Lewis but just cause some people use Islam to spread violence, it doesn't mean that you should join hm lets see oh yeah every other American in their stupid stereotypes. Yes there are Islamic terrorists perhaps more than other religions but look at some of the past atrocities committed by other religion. Why are you debating this. You are spreading hate and stereotypes. Also I'm gonna be honest with you here buddy. Pst nobody really care what your opinion is on this topic. Yep also npeterso2018 your a f**king good debater and your f**king sh*t up. Also don't bother correcting my speelllinge or grammer;- (yes this is intended irony) because it wont change the fact that your wrong and you will still be insecure. Peace
Posted by npeterso2018 2 years ago
npeterso2018
I will be arguing that Islam is NOT the most violent religion, but I won't support an argument that a different religion is the most violent.
Posted by Lewis_P 2 years ago
Lewis_P
"I will be arguing against this statement, but I will not be arguing for any religion being the most violent."
- This intrigues me. Doesn't the term 'most' implies 'in relation to others'? How else would one be for or against the statement without comparing Islam to other religions. Might be quite an interesting debate if this promise is held.
Posted by Daniel_Nemes 2 years ago
Daniel_Nemes
Their holy book has many many violent practices.
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