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CrazyPerson
Pro (for)
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The Contender
bmichael
Con (against)
Losing
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Time does not exist.

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CrazyPerson
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/15/2012 Category: Science
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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CrazyPerson

Pro

Time is a relativistic construct. The past times are memories and the future times are ideas. The only real moment in which we live is static, and anything else is merely a perception.
bmichael

Con

Of course time is real. It is simply a unit of measurement, such as inches or meters. It's really as simple as that.
Debate Round No. 1
CrazyPerson

Pro

True, the perception of time exists. Just as exists any idea or hypothetical, anything exists in theory under certain pretexts. Scientifically speaking, time exists as measurement - but science itself is merely a system of observations that seemingly hold a lot of weight due to its common value amongst humans.

My point is that perception gives us an understanding of time in a way which to me seems very unreal, this is evident in the fact that - 8 hours of doing something you love to do seems to last a much shorter amount of 'time' than 8 hours of manual labor, which seems to take much more 'time'. Time is readily manipulated by emotion, thus revealing its inherent elasticity. But how can this be when we understand it as a fixed measurement? Ah, yes of course, it is just a construct devised to prevent people from going 'insane'. Time would not appear to 'pass' if it were never recognized as a universal language of measurement. So, thinking outside of the minds conditioning, one will realize that existence always has been. It didn't unravel or form or undergo creation, it just is. Time is basically a way of catapulting our experience into past and future events, and rather nulls the present. Our ability to reason tries it's hardest to make valid the presence of non-presence, which in itself is an oxymoron.
bmichael

Con

Oh, I kind of agree with you...
Debate Round No. 2
CrazyPerson

Pro

I like to debate.
bmichael

Con

Me too. :)
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bossyburrito 4 years ago
bossyburrito
...How?
Posted by Jhate 4 years ago
Jhate
Mountains age and break away. If time dosent exist than how do you explain motion, does distance exist? and what about how time and dimensions
Posted by Jhate 4 years ago
Jhate
Not everything ages no but living things age. How is it if what we perceive is only there becasue we see it as that, then why do we all see the same thing? Explain to me dreams, ESP, things like that. Explain things that grow.
Posted by CrazyPerson 5 years ago
CrazyPerson
I can't explain time dilation, that's the general idea behind the concept.
Posted by MouthWash 5 years ago
MouthWash
If time doesn't exist, how do you explain time dilation?
Posted by CrazyPerson 5 years ago
CrazyPerson
We do not understand the process of aging as well as you may think. Aging is not just a measurement of how many revolutions any the sun you can withstand, but is measured by the observed change in the properties of matter over a course of one or more actions. In humans, aging happens at all different rates - it's correlation with time is not constant. And not everything ages, things like air, magma, or especially water do not age.
Posted by Jhate 5 years ago
Jhate
why do we age then if time isnt real
Posted by Oryus 5 years ago
Oryus
lol best debate ever.
Posted by Jhate 5 years ago
Jhate
what causes these electro waves to form to become that exact formation of a bird? what casues electro waves to form in the way of a tree? This falls into the whole big bang theory. Why are our brains so complex and diffrent? How can they store so much info? How is our DNA so complex and diffrent
Posted by CrazyPerson 5 years ago
CrazyPerson
A bird is a bird only if you recognize and call it that. Other than that it is just a concentration of energetic waves.
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