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Valtin
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Truth_seeker
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Tobi (Obito Uchiha) vs Six Paths of Pain (Nagato)

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Started: 4/15/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Valtin

Pro

I will be taking the Tobi's side which is Pro, and Con will take Six Paths of Pain side, who will win between the two we shall know in this debate.

We are talking about Tobi:
1)Has the Mangekyou Sharingan
2)This fight I am presenting is before the supposed "Death" of Obito.
3)Has the Rinnegan
4) This is not Juubito!!

Rules:
1)Please choose what your Pain is, as I did above, but do not add something to him which he did not achieve.

2)This is pure Naruto fans debate, please if you do not know anything about Naruto, do not accept this debate.

3)No trolling, no offending, no insulting, and no using profanities.

4)First round is for acceptance.

5)Do not go off-topic(talking about anything that is not related to Naruto)


6) This is pure fun, so please let us have fun :)

7) breaking any rule will result in a conduct vote point loss(meaning all votes should attribute conduct to Pro or Con, whoever broke the rule)

I wish good luck to both I & Con.

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Truth_seeker

Con

I will be taking the position that Pain, the six paths can defeat Obito Uchiha.

Pain has
1. Rinnengan
2. Statute of the outer path
3. Paths
4. King of Hell
5. Absorption soul technique

As we know "Pain" is technically immortal. Tobi can only transport objects through space-time, but Pain through the 6 paths can foresee Tobi's power. He also has the absorption soul technique to take Tobi's soul from him. With the King of Hell, Pain can heal himself over and over again, thus attack Tobi again and again.
Debate Round No. 1
Valtin

Pro

Rebuttal I:
"Pain has
1. Rinnengan
2. Statute of the outer path
3. Paths
4. King of Hell
5. Absorption soul technique

As we know "Pain" is technically immortal. Tobi can only transport objects through space-time, but Pain through the 6 paths can foresee Tobi's power. He also has the absorption soul technique to take Tobi's soul from him. With the King of Hell, Pain can heal himself over and over again, thus attack Tobi again and again."

Tobi also has the Rinnegan so he can do EVERY ability that you have listed, therefore you are argument is fallacious.



Argument 1 'Kamui' :

Tobi's bread and butter Kamui, space-time jutsu, that allows him to teleport himself and other people if touched physically:
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As we can see, Minato passes through Tobi, which makes him basically immortal.

Teleporting people:
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Argument 2 'Izanagi' :
Izanagi the forbidden jutsu, Obito can use it, as shown from his fight vs Konan:
"Tobi finds himself surrounded by Six hundred billion explosives. Konan than detonates them all over a period of ten minutes, longer than the five-minute period that Tobi can remain intangible for. " [1]

The explosives:
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But Tobi overcomes this shortcoming by using Izanagi:
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I will use these two effictive arguments and I await Con's response.

[1]http://naruto.wikia.com...
Truth_seeker

Con

While it is true that Tobi can transport himself through space-time, he is vulnerable at the moment of attacking evidenced by Minato wounding his arm. All pain needs to do is have

the Deva path pull him towards him

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net...

while the Asura path attacks him with a bunch of mechanical weapons

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and finally, the king of hell traps him

http://www.senpuu.net...
Debate Round No. 2
Valtin

Pro

Rebuttal 1:

"the Deva path pull him towards him"


That cannot happen because Tobi is intangible,
not tangible; incapable of being perceived by the sense of touch, as incorporeal or immaterial things; impalpable. [1]

therefore the Deva path cannot succeed to pull Tobi towards him.


We know that the Asura path or the other paths won't be touching him because Tobi has the Six Paths of Obito:
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Who have tailed beast powers:
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It is near impossible for Pain to win, because Obito has the tailed beasts, Six paths of Pain, and MS Sharingan.


Even if Pain traps Tobi in Chibaku Tensei/Planetary devastation:

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Tobi can escape it with the Izanagi, as I have shown from my previous argument.


Pain is a strong opponent, in fact one of the strongest, but he isn't as strong as Obito.

[1]http://dictionary.reference.com...
Truth_seeker

Con

While it is true the 6 paths of pain will be busy fighting the six paths of Obito, pain has the almighty push which defeated Utakata. If any of them turn into a tailed best, Pain could simply use chakra receiver rods to disrupt chakra flow and fire missiles and other projectiles to defeat them while the animal path summons animals to serve as obstacles and distractions to them.

Pain also has the ten tails to defeat Obito and his tailed beasts.

While it is true Obito can escape with the Izanagi, his eye would go blind. Meanwhile, with the Rinnegan, the six paths of pain can quickly catch up to Obito, being able to counter any incoming attacks. The Deva path can use a chakra receiver blade to slash Obito and as soon as he materializes, the Human path can absorb his soul. If Obito gets out of that, Pain can just use planetary devastation again, causing him to lose his other Izanagi eye. Finally, the king of hell can capture Obito and destroy him.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Valtin 3 years ago
Valtin
@Berend I guess I am making Obito too powerful, I will edit this and make him without Juubi, only MS and Rinnegan, and choose your own Pain as per rules! thanks for the suggestion!
Posted by Berend 3 years ago
Berend
Obito with the Rinnegan, MS and as the Juubito, Nagato really has no way to win. I do not see it at least, I can try to debate this for you as Nagato (How he was in Edo, meaning him and not puppets) or the puppets.
Posted by Romanii 3 years ago
Romanii
Damn I haven't watched Naruto for a while... wish I saw this when I was still obsessed a few months back XD
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