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Topic: Anarchy

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/10/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Harlan

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I would otherwise think this would be a silly thing to even bother saying, but looking at people's profiles, there is actually a surprising number of anarchists.

The concept of anarchy being beneficial is na�ve and reckless. Governments are in place for VERY important reasons. People are violent. It is true. It is part of human nature to kill other Humans. This may seem strange to us, but that is only because we have been conditioned to suppress this violent nature.

"During the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man"
-Thomas Hobbes

There is a lot of wisdom to this. Without a government we would be in a constant state of war. I can guarantee you, that if people had no rules to govern them, the rate of death would SORE, resulting from murder being a regular thing, lack of protection, lack of organized and government funded medical institutions (disease), etc. To be in Anarchy is to be in complete chaos and un-organization.

There would not be any significant advances in humanity, if there was not a government to organize it. We must have government. It is one of the things that make the human race so powerful. To have this mass organization, is an amazing feat for a species to accomplish. To remove the government is to put your own, individual self in danger.
Though it sounds great to have freedom, people would abuse this freedom horribly.

"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil"
-Common Sense (by Thomas Paine)

By the way, I recommend Common sense. It is a good book to read.
websb

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Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
I do not see myself as an idealist. I believe that anarchy would threaten me personally. I believe in following your instincts and self-preservation; not idealism.

PS I have not seen 'a history of violence'; maybe I shall look into it.
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
I enjoy your take on things, Harlan. I feel you're a very bright kid, beyond your years. And being so young, you remind me of myself when I was idealistic and not so cynical (actually I'm a realist...experience has taught me that there is bad things out there and that my destiny is in MY hands, not others).

I think it would be a fun topic. You don't necessarily need to BELIEVE in the thing your debating...only in your ability to convince others that it is the right thing. Attorneys do that all the time. Also, you learn so much from looking at the other point of view. I'm curious, have you ever seen 'A History of Violence ?" That movie kinda illustrates the point that everybody has a different take on the world and even such strong 'core' beliefs as Edward Norton had in that movie can change. I like looking at all sides.
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
What would motivate you to do it then?

I guess some of my teachers (namely my philosophy teacher last year) do the same thing in order to show the other opinion whether they like it or not, but why would you debate against your own beliefs; It makes the whole concept of opinion seem so futile.

(though I would be delighted to debate you, ivisman)
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
I really hope this debate gets off the ground. If websb forfeits however, I'll debate you Harlan on it. I don't believe in anarchy, but I believe I could make a good case for it ! :-)
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