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GnosisMalcolm
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dtaylor971
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Traditional Religion isn't a plague

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dtaylor971
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/6/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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GnosisMalcolm

Con

Religion is the scourge of the earth seeing as it drives the people are and when even pro peace no one listens. It divides the species and changes history. Used as a tool of manipulation it has since the day of ancient made people go maniac feeling they are doing something to help man but causes slaughter.
dtaylor971

Pro

As you make a claim, you have the burden of proof. Here is the definition we will be relying on:

Plague: a contagious bacterial disease characterized by fever and delirium, typically with the formation of buboes and sometimes infection of the lungs. [1]

You need to state how Traditional Religion is a bacterial disease caused by fever, and that infects the lungs. Since the wording choice in the title reassembles that of a noun, the verb definition will not be used, whereas it would be wrong.

Good luck :D

[1] https://www.google.com...;
Debate Round No. 1
GnosisMalcolm

Con

To restate my old argument use the word plague as in definition 1 (http://www.merriam-webster.com...). The subject is inferred as society and the human species.Negative losses caused by traditional religion are the Crusades of the Catholic religion (http://books.google.com... whole book quote), The jihad (http://www.merriam-webster.com... ,look at war http://www.merriam-webster.com...) and calls to war by extremist of a traditional religion such as westboro Baptist church. These events all create oppression of one other people/people which is against peace (http://www.merriam-webster.com...) and utopia (http://www.merriam-webster.com...) a state of perfectness.
dtaylor971

Pro

I'm still sticking with my own definition. You still have not made any specific let alone good arguments. The burden of proof lied on you. Guess I'll break it.

Right now, we are relying solely that traditional religion is a plague. As we now know (it's wrong, but I guess I'll have to follow it) that the definition of plague that my opponent wants to use is a large number of harmful or annoying things.

Now, it's time for some deep-thinking. :P

I would like to point out that traditional religion does not do, in a physical manner, the things you said. The people do it. Look at this definition of harm:

Harm: physical injury, esp. that which is deliberately inflicted. [1]

Does traditional religion suddenly grow arms and attack someone physically? No. It's the people who do it.

You never stated the definition of various words you wanted to use, so therefore, the first definition (mine) will be the definition of the next argument. Still waiting for you to prove that traditional religion is a contagious bacterial disease characterized by fever and delirium, typically with the formation of buboes and sometimes infection of the lungs.

You need to be more specific in the future.

I rest my case.


[1] https://www.google.com...
Debate Round No. 2
GnosisMalcolm

Con

Actually i mean what i say the call to jihad is literally a call to war by THE RELIGION. The crusades were called by a recognized pope who by religious text is defined as communicating THE WILL OF GOD. In the westboro the a minister also one who conveys gods "will" made offensive comments stating anti gay messages. For once saying what I mean is meaning what I say with foreknowledge. Even in the definition of supplied by you Jews were persecuted for starting the plague by Catholics. resulting in violence. Also the word is commonly used as in "violence plagues the land". The title may not be literal yet is. Using the common skill of context clues and sources provided what i said was literal and specific. By deeper delving then the literal text the logic delivered passes the high standard of the Socratic Method a method of logic used by common law. I digress i restate the previous round of 2. On the bases of questioning my logic and not the actual issue which had provided sources to come up with the conclusion.
dtaylor971

Pro

I am still waiting for you to prove that it is a plague using my definition. Also, you must prove it is a plague by all of the definition. Or else, it is not truly a plague.
Debate Round No. 3
GnosisMalcolm

Con

GnosisMalcolm forfeited this round.
dtaylor971

Pro

Extend all arguments, I guess :P
Debate Round No. 4
GnosisMalcolm

Con

GnosisMalcolm forfeited this round.
dtaylor971

Pro

So that is that.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by TorqueDork 3 years ago
TorqueDork
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Reasons for voting decision: con forfeited and didn't define plague