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Tinman1
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The Contender
Varrack
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Trans people should be slaves

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Varrack
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/14/2015 Category: People
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,177 times Debate No: 70061
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Tinman1

Pro

So I have some pretty abnormal views on human rights. I think that black people should still be slaves. I believe that women have no right to deny a man sex. I believe that rape is a victimless crime and should be legalized. But trans people are different. Trans people exist only for their sexual pleasure, so they should be used as sex slaves.

Think about it: Trans people are rare, and they don't contribute anything. We could take them from society without consequence and open establishments where people could come and use them as sex slaves. The money provided could go to the government, and we could decrease our debt! Additionally, most trans people aren't white, so we wouldn't be taking out the people that matter. In fact, this would help us to usher back in the slavery of blacks!
Varrack

Con

"Trans people are rare, and they don't contribute anything."

The second part of this statement is completely false and has no base. It is an assertion that lacks evidence and cannot be used as an argument. Thus, it can be logically dismissed.

"The money provided could go to the government, and we could decrease our debt!"
"In fact, this would help us to usher back in the slavery of blacks!"

The above statements make the assumption that slavery is moral. If slavery is immoral, then these arguments hold no weight.

It is immoral because:

"Slavery increases total human unhappiness
The slave-owner treats the slaves as the means to achieve the slave-owner's ends, not as an end in themselves
Slavery exploits and degrades human beings
Slavery violates human rights: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights explicitly forbids slavery and many of the practices associated with slavery
Slavery uses force or the threat of force on other human beings
Slavery leaves a legacy of discrimination and disadvantage
Slavery is both the result and the fuel of racism, in that many cultures show clear racism in their choice of people to enslave
Slavery is both the result and the fuel of gender discrimination
Slavery perpetuates the abuse of children"[1]

It is discriminatory and unfair to make transexuals slaves. It is cruel and should never be permitted.

The resolution is negated.

[1] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by jabie 2 years ago
jabie
this is so funny I have never heard of anybody who was sooooo oblivious to everything ever
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
Or serfdom. Serfs own themselves and have a measure of freedom to work and marry.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
@lannan, you could try indentured servitude. Or just have one as your butler and you could pay them. Much more moral than slavery.
Posted by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
Though I would find it awesome to have my own personal transgendered or hermaphrodite sex slave it it highly immoral and illegal to have slaves and thus it should never happen.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
So you are saying that trolling is acceptable at times?
Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
@Varrack - A old H.S. friend is about the best troll I have ever known. He is one of my smartest friends too. To get people worked up takes more than just saying nasty stuff. Its finesse. Its delicate. Cant just barf it all up at once.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
@TBR, actually I've been posting random stuff on a 1 millionth comment wins thread and I don't quite think that is the same thing as trolling, lol.
Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
I know some clever trolls. It take intelligence, wit. Just typing garbage is on a forum is... Well its what you are Tinman1.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
It is degrading to the site to make these terrible debates.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
Then don't troll. No one likes it.
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Vote Placed by Paleophyte 2 years ago
Paleophyte
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Reasons for voting decision: Con fully negated the resolution. Not certain that Pro wasn't trolling.
Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con used a source so he gains that point. Con refuted all of Pro's points and then some so the resolution is thus negated. Con wins the debate.
Vote Placed by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
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Reasons for voting decision: Con wins on all normal impartial criteria, however Con wins bigger for not being a giant horses ass. Good work Con.