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Trevor Martin Should Face Legal Consequences For CSGO-Lotto Website

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Started: 7/9/2016 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Debating Period
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First round is acceptance.
Second round is my argument/opponent rebuttal.
My position is that Trevor Martin should face legal consequences for his past actions pertaining to his business and website CS:GO Lotto.
Con's position in this debate will be that Mr. Martin should not face legal consequences for his actions.


Challenge accepted.
Wish you best of luck.
Debate Round No. 1


Thanks for the acceptance. Allow me to start with some definitions (to avoid confusion):

GAMBLING-->to play games for chance of money, to bet.
CSGO (SKINS)--> To acquire a skin, one must either:
1.Earn them through random drops by playing in online community and official servers.
2."Uncrate" them from opening weapon and promotional crates.
3.Trading with other players. BUYING SKINS from the Steam Market is considered a trade.

Mr. Martin should face legal consequences for multiple reasons, including but not limited to: violation of the USA's Federal Trade Commission (FTC), promoting CSGO Lotto to minors, not disclosing that he was/is the President of the company in his advertisements for the website, and suppressing evidence by deleting and/or setting public YouTube videos to "private" that contained evidence. The core arguments present here are that minors were able to suffer from the affects of gambling in an unregulated CSGO gambling industry (partially thanks to Mr. Martin), and that those of age to legally gamble were unfairly deceived prior to using CSGO Lotto.

The FTC established in 2002 that there is little to prevent minors from getting on age-restricted sites to gamble ( Unlike casinos in real life which require identification, one can easily access CSGO gambling sites such as Mr. Martin's and put their CSGO items (which can be traded in for legal tender money) without solid proof of age, as it is online and not in person. Prior to July 7 2016, Steam proudly presented CSGO Lotto as a premier CSGO gambling site. Any minor could check a box at the website itself saying he or she was 18 ( Martin's audience includes kids under 18 (his videos aren't age restricted).

Mr. Martin's deception in his YouTube videos is reason alone to be brought to justice, despite his efforts to cover it up. He corrected the descriptions of his videos which featured promotion of his own website to make them seem less deceiving. However, YouTube users "HonorTheCall" and "h3h3Productions" showed in their respective arguments that through screenshots, use of "Google Cache," and "TheWaybackMachine," two reliable Google services that highlight what a website link looked like at a particular time, that Mr. Martin initially omitted the paragraphs in his descriptions that provided transparency in his intentions with promoting CSGO Lotto (to increase its exposure and profits for him). As a matter of fact, in the first video that he discusses sponsorship with CSGO Lotto, he claims that "they" contacted him on Twitter to sponsor him, intentionally speaking in the third person. He later tries to cover this up by messaging HonorTheCall that he was not the original owner of the website, and had purchased rights to it. However, this has been debunked as he was the owner from its inception in December 2015 (
There was another (now removed) video where he logs into the website as an administrator. Additionally, he consistently refers to CSGO Lotto wages as "gambling" and "betting."
All of the aforementioned deception includes blatantly lying on numerous occasions to his audience that he was promoting his website to. This is not a question of ethics, rather it is a direct violation of "Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 USC 45) prohibits "unfair or deceptive acts of practicing in or affecting commerce" This prohibition applies to all persons engaged in commerce, including banks" ( As CSGO Lotto is a gambling website that may be accessed nationally, it is subject to interstate commerce. The argument that it was shown in public records that Mr. Martin was/is President of CSGO Lotto withers in the face of FTC enforcement policy, and is dramatically refuted. "The Commission must analyze the overall impression that is projected by the advertisement from the perspective of the targeted audience" ( This means that the original videos with their ORIGINAL descriptions are the ones subject to scrutiny by the FTC, in which Mr. Martin presents himself as an outsider or sponsor to CSGO Lotto, not the President. He must disclose this if he is advertising his own corporation to not be considered "deceptive" under federal law.
In summary, what you heard today were the solid facts and LAW that defend a call for legal consequences. Minors were able to gamble in an unregulated industry of CSGO gambling partially due to Mr. Martin, and those of legal gambling age were unlawfully deceived regarding Martin's financial ties to the site. "Con" must refute all previous facts.

Sources: (The Federal Trade Commission's Deception
Enforcement Policy by Dale Pollack) (search CSGO Lotto INC)
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Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by TheWaxy28 2 years ago
Oak19, I am disappointed that you forefeited.
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