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tronaldtrump
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flyingpurplepeopleeater
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Trump will make a good president

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/11/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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tronaldtrump

Pro

If you accept, write accept
1st round, (obviously) acceptance
2nd round, argument
3rd round, counterargument
4th round, rebuttal
5th round, closing statements
flyingpurplepeopleeater

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
tronaldtrump

Pro

I feel that trump would make a good president because of his policies on immigration, stances on terrorism and experience with economic management. The first reason Trump would make a good president is the fact that he will be more strict on immigrants. Building a wall is a smart idea because even though people cross over our borders illegally, we still allow some of them to reside here. This is wrong because the U.S. government is rewarding them for breaking laws. When Trump builds a border fence, this will stop because the immigrants will have to cross over legally and the bad ones will be filtered out easily. The second reason Donald Trump would make a good president is his stance on terrorism. ISIS does horrible things and they must be stopped. A temporary restriction on Muslims entering the country is a good idea because, lets face facts, most terrorists are Muslims. If we put a restriction on Muslim's entering the country, it will be much easier to fight against ISIS without having terrorists in our country. Finally, Trump would make a good leader because of his experience with economics. Donald Trump already owns a mufti billion dollar company meaning he has experience with economic crisis's and money management. The debt has gone up 7.7 trillion dollars under Obama's rule. (http://useconomy.about.com...) and having an experienced business man in office is a good idea. These reasons listed above and many others are why Donald trump would make a good president.
flyingpurplepeopleeater

Con

Thank you Shrek.

There are three main reasons that Donald Trump would be an insufficient president. He falls short in the categories of domestic policy, immigration, and foreign policy. I will address these issues in that order.

In terms of domestic policy and social issues, Trump plans to:

Limit the civil liberties of LGBT people and communities

Maintain the drug war, which, like prohibition, is ineffective and also arguably unnecessary and unconstitutional.

Deregulate gun control, which although helpful in places with a large population of self-defense gun owners, would be detrimental to places like New York with a miniscule ratio of legitimate gun owners to criminal gun owners.

In terms of immigration, Donald Trump plans to keep and toughen immigration laws, which is a short term solution for a long term problem. His claim that Mexicans do not work but receive welfare, although untrue, mist be addressed. The claim is that Mexicans take money from tax paying Americans without working for it. However, so do other Americans. Keeping out Mexicans may limit the problem to some extent, but doesn't solve anything, and also gives more value to a life based on its birthplace, which is racist and creates a national class system. Removing welfare benefits would not only deplete our debt incurred by allowing Mexicans to enter, but would deplete our debt incurred from Americans refusing to work, promoting the economy.

In terms of foreign policy, Donald Trump wants to play into the hands of ISIS officials. The propaganda put out by ISIS displays America as an evil entity that will stop at nothing to destroy the Middle East and Islam. This is not to say that the method of attacking them ourselves should not be considered, but we must note that it will increase their military base and inspire a fervor against us, costing American and Middle Eastern lives. Although it may take more time, it is superior to get the help of the UN, so that they have less internal support.
Debate Round No. 2
tronaldtrump

Pro

tronaldtrump forfeited this round.
flyingpurplepeopleeater

Con

You claim that Donald Trump has 3 redeeming characteristics: his immigration policy, his foreign policy, and his economic policy. I will counter them in that order.

It appears that your only justification for building a border fence is that undocumented immigration is illegal. Therefore, I am obliged to show why it should be legalized. So long as taxpayer dollars do not go to undocumented immigrants, they are not hindering Americans in any way. They are not hindering the economy, as they are working to receive money and are spending it on goods, increasing the flow of money, boosting the economy. Immigrants involved in illegal activities are still prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and often even more so. So Mexican immigrants, so long as they do not receife welfare and take from us, as other Americans currently do, have just as much of a right to freedom as we do.

In terms of foreign policy, we definitely need to do something about ISIS. But fighting them alone, as I said before, wlll increase their hatred for us, prolonging the war. We need to get the aid of other countries in order to help them realize that their issue is not America, but themselves, which will decrease ISIS support and shorten the war.

Mr. Trump's economic rhetoric is actually somewhat intelligent. Decreasing government involvement in the economy helps it grow. However, his actual opinions are far from that. He plans, as we have already said, to drastically increase military spending, currently the largest part of the US government budget, and to maintain Medicare and Medicaid (http://talkingpointsmemo.com...).

In conclusion, Donald Trump's policies on the positions you claim to be his best are actually not very intelligent at all.
Debate Round No. 3
tronaldtrump

Pro

tronaldtrump forfeited this round.
flyingpurplepeopleeater

Con

I believe I have made my points clear. Please explain any flaws you find in my logic :)
Debate Round No. 4
tronaldtrump

Pro

tronaldtrump forfeited this round.
flyingpurplepeopleeater

Con

mcafee for prez
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by flyingpurplepeopleeater 1 year ago
flyingpurplepeopleeater
bruh u left
Posted by flyingpurplepeopleeater 1 year ago
flyingpurplepeopleeater
yo y only 2000 chars i had to rewrite twice to fit my arg
Posted by Electrolance 1 year ago
Electrolance
Holy flying fucked it's Shrek!
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