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Trump's EPA Director Selection

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Started: 12/9/2016 Category: Economics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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darbyheflin

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Trump's selection of Scott Pruitt as Director of the EPA is disastrous. Pruitt intends to reduce regulations in order to benefit the oil and natural gas industries with which he has strong ties. This is going to undo everything that the Obama administration has worked towards in order to create a more sustainable and environmentally conscious culture throughout the US and the World. With this choice it has become even clearer that Trump is only basing his decisions off of short run economic benefits rather than sustainable long run advancements. It is true that some jobs may be created through loosening environmental regulations and that companies may be able to produce more at lower prices, but future generations will have to struggle with diminishing resources and coastal damage caused by climate change. The blessing of Earth's beauty and sustenance for humans is not worth a $0.10 drop in gas prices.
toocoolblue

Pro

Maybe you're not as old as me.

If you were, you might remember when the exact same people who now go crazy screaming about Global Warming were going crazy screaming about the next Ice Age.

I've been through a few debates here and shown the enviro-nuts the real science about the climate change, but it is about as effective as speaking to a brick.

So, I won't bother again, instead I'll simply point out the dishonest hypocrisy in what you have stated.

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This is going to undo everything that the Obama administration has worked towards in order to create a more sustainable and environmentally conscious culture

You need to learn the difference between propaganda and reality.

From 2008 to 2010 Obama and the Democrats had complete control of America. Democrats effectively had a 60 vote super majority in the Senate, (58 Democrat Senators + 2 Independents that caucused as Democrats, Joe Lieberman and Bernie Sanders) which they used to force Obamacare on America.
https://projects.propublica.org...

The Democrats also controlled the House with 58.8% of the votes.

So what did the Democrats do when there were no Republicans left to blame for Hurricanes, Terrorist Attacks and Bank Failures which Democrats actually caused?

What happened when the ONLY WAY FOR DEMOCRATS TO MAINTAIN POWER WAS FOR AMERICA TO PROSPER?

Remember the EVIL BUSH TAX CUTS, which only helped the wealthy? Remember how Obama was finally going to make the rich pay their fair share?

What happened when Democrats actually had to try to help America?

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"I didn't raise taxes once. I lowered taxes over the last two years," Obama said.
http://www.politifact.com...

Not only were the EVIL BUSH TAX CUTS not repealed, they were extended into 2013 when they were basically just renamed.

WHEN LYING, HYPOCRITICAL, DISHONEST DEMOCRATS WERE IN TOTAL CONTROL, THEY DIDN'T RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH BY ONE PENNY!

But what about Democrats other huge concern...THE POOR.

Remember how Obama was going to raise the MINIMUM WAGE?
Where is Obama"s promised minimum-wage hike?
During the 2008 campaign, presidential candidate Barack Obama made a pledge to raise the minimum wage to $9.50 per hour by 2011. Promises like this one inspired a generation of young voters....
It is now four years later, and there has been no increase to the minimum wage. There has been no congressional vote, much less a whisper from the White House on the minimum wage.
http://blogs.reuters.com...

WHEN LYING, HYPOCRITICAL, DISHONEST DEMOCRATS WERE IN TOTAL CONTROL, THEY DIDN'T VOTE TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE BY ONE PENNY!

Under Obama, the Rich got Richer and the Poor got Poorer.

The number of people on food stamps rose from 32 million when Obama took office to 43.6 million right now.
http://www.politifact.com...

Black people in particular were devastated by Obama and the Democrats.
Tavis Smiley: Black Americans Have "Lost Ground" Under Obama
"Sadly " and it pains me to say this " over the last decade, black folk, in the era of Obama, have lost ground in every major economic category," Smiley told host Alyona Minkovski.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

Does any of this dishonesty and hypocrisy matter to a Liberal? Of course not!

Obama and the Democrats never gave a damn about taxing the rich.
Obama and the Democrats never gave a damn about helping the poor.

It's all propaganda, and the Democrat's voting record proves it!

So, is it even worth pointing out that OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT EITHER? Probably not, but I'll try anyway.

Obama's record on the environment is unparalleled in U.S. history.

After HUGE OBAMA DONORS, B.P. caused the WORST ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER in America's history, Obama blocked attempts to warn the public of the danger and then tried to cover up the amount of damage caused.
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The White House blocked government scientists from warning the American public of the potential environmental disaster caused by BP's broken well in the Gulf of Mexico, a report released by the national commission investigating the oil spill said yesterday.
It goes on to catalogue other lapses by the administration, including repeated underestimates of the size of the spill, and downplaying the environmental damage after the BP well was capped.
The administration clung to that estimate " which turned out to be 12 times lower than the actual spill size " despite known inaccuracies in the scientists' work, the report said.
https://www.theguardian.com...

Obama has been the greatest advocate of "Fracking" the world has yet seen.

Obama quietly approves hundreds of offshore fracking drills in Gulf of Mexico
the Center for Biological Diversity uncovered documents that reveal the administration approved over 1,200 offshore fracking applications between 2010 and 2014, which took place in hundreds of wells in the Gulf of Mexico, including within the habitat of loggerhead turtles. The administration allowed oil companies to dump over 76 billion gallons of wastewater into the Gulf waters in 2014 alone, the CBD"s press release states.
https://www.rt.com...

76 BILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER DUMPED IN THE GULF!?!? Way to protect the environment Obama!

President Obama Gets It: Fracking Is Awesome

No wonder President Obama said tonight that "my administration will keep cutting red tape and speeding up new oil and gas permits."

That's music to the ears of the oil and gas industry.
http://www.forbes.com...

But 7 years and 11 months into his reign of error Obama has suddenly discovered the environment and is breaking records issuing environmental regulations.
The Obama administration is introducing a last-minute barrage of costly environmental regulation pronouncements that Republicans have vowed to repeal as soon as possible after Donald Trump"s January 20 presidential inauguration.
http://www.foxnews.com...

Gee...Why wasn't the environment important when Obama thought Hillary would be elected?

And of course, let's not leave Hillary out of this, all the while this LYING HYPOCRITE was telling environmentalists anything they wanted to hear, she was busy tell the biggest polluters on Earth that once elected, they could burn the environment to the ground.

Hillary Clinton Tried to Push Fracking on Other Nations When She Was Secretary of State, New Emails Reveal
http://www.alternet.org...

"[M]y view is I want to defend natural gas," the former secretary of state said in a transcript of a private meeting with a union that was sent to her campaign.
http://dailycaller.com...

Emails: Clinton tried to export fracking at State
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com...

If you want to know why Hillary and Obama say they care about the environment and then do nothing to protect it.

It's because they know Global Warming isn't real. But it's an easy way to brain wash the gullible.

When they had a chance to raise taxes on the wealthy, they didn't.
When they had a chance to raise the minimum wage, they didn't.
When they had a chance to stop fracking, they didn't.

When do you catch on?

The EPA under Clinton would be exactly the same as under Trump.
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Posted by Stupidape 1 year ago
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"If you were, you might remember when the exact same people who now go crazy screaming about Global Warming were going crazy screaming about the next Ice Age.

I've been through a few debates here and shown the enviro-nuts the real science about the climate change, but it is about as effective as speaking to a brick." toocoolblue

I find your argument obnoxious, I cannot blame darbyheflin for quitting the debate.
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