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# Truth Objectively Exists

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 12/4/2014 Category: Philosophy Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 521 times Debate No: 66363
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 Pro First off, this debate is about whether truth exists, and whether truth is true, regardless of whether someone believes it. My argument: Truth does exist. Without truth, what can we be sure of? Without truth, nothing in school is worth learning. Without truth, Life is not worth living. I, for one, am absolutely sure that (using numbers, not numerals) 2+2=4. A NUMERAL is a word or symbol that we, as humans, have chosen to represent a certain quantity. A NUMBER is a quantity, regardless of what it is called. While the numeral, or name of a number may change, the quantity does not change. (http://www.differencebetween.com...) When I use this equation, I talk of numbers, not numerals. when I say the statement above, I mean the quantity that we label "2" plus a quantity that we label "2" equals the quantity that we label "4". I know that because we came up the words "two" and "four", one could say that the statement "two plus two equals four" could mean anything, and therefore is not necessarily true. that is why I mentioned that this equation was dealing with numbers, and not numerals. The quantity that we label "Two" plus the quantity that we label "Two" equals the quantity that we label "Four". The above statement is true, regardless of what we label the quantities. The above statement is true, regardless of whether someone believes it. Facts are Facts, and Truth is Truth, regardless of whether it is believed.Report this Argument Con truth can only be in the past, and the past is no more, the future and past doesn't matter, is information, and my imagination only happens now, now is matter true is matter, and truth is memory, know and knowledge, now and past, where as the future is false belief=false=future know=true=now knowledge=truth know is the balancing point between belief and knowledge, and belief is the opposite of knowledge equations are true or false, not about truthReport this Argument Pro Is your above statement true?Report this Argument Con true=personal physical experience of now false=anywhere beyond my personal physical experience of now I am here now, so I must have gotten here somehow, and the future is unknownReport this Argument Pro By your logic: Truth: my existence, all that I can experience. Statement: I exist. Therefore, truth exists. Honestly, there's no way for you to win this. To claim that there is no truth is making a claim that you say is true. If it is true, truth exists. If it is false, then the statement claiming the nonexistance of truth is false, therefore truth exists.Report this Argument Con existence=true false and truthReport this Argument
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
craziest strawman ever, and you get the votes xD
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
I am me
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
knowledge=truth=past*
Posted by Vajrasattva-LeRoy 2 years ago
L. Ron Hubbard stated in his book on Dianetics, (1950), that Absolutes
have to be considered logically unobtainable.
Proving that absolute Truth exists doesn't make sense.
Not being able to prove the existence of absolute truth
doesn't prove that truth doesn't exist.
Posted by chewster911 2 years ago
I would love to accept this, but i'm gonna have to pass :(
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