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Truth_seeker (Christian) vs. atheist/agnostic rap battle

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Started: 7/30/2014 Category: Music
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lol it's about to get disrespectful

I'm callin out the unbelievers who blatantly diss religion
denyin' the fact that their views are also a personal decision
Claimin i'ma Christian raised that way, could be a satanist
Sayin' family tradition matters, i guess also applies to an atheist
N' to all agnostics dissin' a creationist as they persist n' persist
Woah wait a minute, i thought ya'll said your uncertain he exists?

Atheists bicker n' claim for God, there's no evidence
Denyin' the fact that it's all in their emotional residence
Cuz they hate on what God represents when they in his presence
Hatin' on me cuz i stand solid on the Bible like a rook
Hallowin "The God delusion", they just don't call it a holy book

They read all these books to exalt vain brilliance
Lil did they know that i carry a divine experience!
Your limited minds preach open-mindness, but practice ignorance
Narrowin' down the unknown to a confinement is quite a hindrance


Your argument stems from a basic misunderstanding
A delusions of reality, mixed with emotional pandering,
Collapsing under the burden of proof,
Visions substituting the truth,
Buried so deep in your psyche, can you even see the roof,
That I’m raising? Unlike Jesus’ corpse
Add a talking snake and you case gets worse
I don’t hate on your God, man. What would I gain in the end?
I’m not in the business of trashing imaginary friends,
You see, family traditions do matter in all our decisions,
A basic upbringing effects who we are, from philosophy to religion,
But I wasn’t raised an atheist, I was a born again Christian,
With a small minority, who’s really indoctrinating children?

I was liberated with knowledge, not because it was personally convenient
Truth seeker, huh? Sounds like someone’s been lenient.
You have a God that judges all, but not this debate?
Are you afraid of public opinion deciding your fate?
I’ve never met your God. Of that I’m pretty glad.
He sounds like the deity you don’t want to see mad.
I’m ignorant for seeking knowledge? Why, there must be some confusion,
Join us in the real world, it’s much more comfortable than your delusion.
You brought lazy rhymes. I can’t wait to see more,
Because I’m dropping the mic, as your God sends bodies to the floor.

Debate Round No. 1


Emotional pandering? Your the one who's slandering
rambling about God n' gambling with the life your shambling
Rabbi Akiba at the time of his martyr's death quoted the Shema
Your in a dilemma if you think you can kill God's spoken word: Rhema
In the beginning, God was and eternal, that's the proof
You started off Christian, so poof take in the harsh Truth!

I'm being lenient cuz i'm not a genius, don't want judgement, i'm jus being obedient
You steppin' up to a God who cause death, so your gettin' the same treatment
According to Chaos theory, you need infinite neurons to have an imagination
Stop tryin' to puff up what you don't understand, focus on creator's relationship
How the heck does the clay question the potter? especially when the primeval atoms got hotter
No matter, either way, you came in this world one way, you leave the other way in a slaughter

You say God judges all but this battle, dissin' the heavenly government
After this, personally, you'll indifferently be torn apart as divine punishment
The problem of evil isn't really a problem, you jus' mutterin' n blubberin'
For you and God, it's such a dilemma cuz your the only one sufferin'

Your right, my God punishes, sends bodies to the floor including yours
Did you forget Darwin's evolution made you the animal to walk on all fours?
You claim that believin' in an unseen being should make me fleein' cuz it's blind faith
The psalms say "God shall smite your enemies" you'll get murked cuz the Lord saith!

Fear my God's punishin' wrath upon all ungodliness
Denyin' his presence cuz you hate on holiness
You'd rather scapegoat me send me to the wilderness
I'll shave you shamelessly as you are reduced to baldness
I flaunt my knowledge so you'll be beggin' for forgiveness

You fear to be struck dead so get your lamb dipped before you get hit by the plagues of Egypt
Like Moses, i'll strike you with the plague of death so observe pesach or my sword is blood-dripped
Your end shall not be swift, you get sifted like wheat, but push you forward in a time shift as i cause mischief

You said God's imaginary, let me ask you stuff to make you look like an imbecile, leavin' your mind swirled
Voltaire said he'd destroy God's Word, how come his house is now the top Bible centers in the world?
Allow me to quote Scripture: "the serpent'll crush his heel, but he'll crush his head
If God deceased, how come we still break bread, widespread despite bloodshed?
After i kill you in this rap battle, you might as well confess n' convert on your deathbed
Difference between you n' haters tryin' to destroy God? Nothin! e'ery single one is dead!


You've got beliefs so archaic only sex is more primal
Living in huts of deerskin, because its about to get tribal
I'll give you credit, 2,000 years, your faith is persistent
But compared to logic and reason its just inconsistent
Everything had a beginning, a fact your faith is needing
But God didn't? We call that special pleading.
I didn't diss heaven, I dissed you.
Too scared of the losing to let the public choose

Your argument is so delirious, you need to see a doctor
So many stramen arguments, you must be off your rocker
1), I'm not scared of your imaginations
I don't hate on the shadows that your mind is creating
2) We are animals, but we're a social species
You're not the first to put forward such a hollow thesis

You're playing fast and loose with rhymes,
Wasting everyone's time,
Displaying a lack of human decency, no difference between you and the pound
Rabid dog out for blood, 'bout time someone put you down
I don't try to destroy God's word, it does it on its own
An all loving being leaving a trail of blood, tears, and bones,
10,000 years? It'll be the next flat-earth
Getting defensive, as science takes over your turf

Can an all-powerful God make something he cant lift?
Can an all-loving God let evil persist?
Can an all-knowing God ever have freedom?
Can you accept the lies of his kingdom?

You're not even an animal, rejoicing in the lives that ended
Sorry I don't believe, my reasoning can't be eternally suspended
You claim moral high ground
Irony so thick you can't even see the ground.
God's not dead, he's on life support
May his end be painful, for the lives you say he cut short.
Debate Round No. 2


Huts of deer skin? In the near East, clay houses were innovated
Why did I do that? To show this fool is ignorant and uneducated
Logic and reason? By who's logic could that be?
let me illustrate let take a trip down your history

Listen, the human desire is connected to its ability to create it's own reality
Internalizing n harmonizing as it's mind thinks it realizing it found solubility
That would totally remove all hindrance to false infallibility to gain stability
As it fails to address the truth of infinity to deny the divinity of the Trinity

So much wisdom, prophetic predictions n' knowledge emantin' from an ancient civilization!
Your exactly right, It's very clear to science now that the Bible defies all logical explanation!
Disbelievers thought they could disprove God after the 1st century in the enlightenment
But it's only because they want to escape all moral responsibility of their assignment

In your finite mind, you stick to statistical probabilities ignoring possibilities
I'm about to show you that divine order is still in it's fullest of God's capabilities
I admit if i lose then it means that winning wasn't God's will
But still, let him decide whether you have skill or just road kill

Son, we all know these conclusions don't come from your own
which means that your doing all you can to throw him off his throne
Agnostics don't want to be in heaven where God abide, surely don't want to be fried
they can't admit the truth so they shift to "i don't know" just to be on the safer side
Your a free thinker right? So your doing what you can to benefit the human race
If God didn't exist then it wouldn't hurt to say a prayer and ask directly in his face!


Prophetic prediction? Hey, I guess your right
You can see all the prophecies if only in hindsight
The Bible doesn't defy explanation,
It defies the reality of our situation
Six thousand years? Just as likely as a world flood
Turning water to wine? Or how about a river of blood?
How 'bout you and me, do a mental exercise
How can an all loving God allow evil? Man just open your eyes
I don't hate God. I don't hate what isn't there.
Please keep misrepresenting my position, cus we know you cant play fair
I'm accountable, not because of God but because I'm good
I don't need a God to know that morality is understood
I'm not afraid of God. What harm can delusions do?
I don't believe in your God because you can't show he's true
Take it in on faith, take it on anything but evidence
If your God existed wouldn't the truth of it be evident?
Getting defensive, cus now your god isn't relevant
I deny the Holy Spirit just for the hell of it
I don't pray, because I don't like to waste time
God wants to talk to me? He can do it on his dime

Your God's a mafia boss
Threatening the loss
Shift the blame onto me for not believing on faith,
Lack of evidence is a disgrace
Sure, you feel comfortable with your own mortality
But some of us care about truth and decent morality
It seems to me your god is seeing red,
Everywhere he goes leaving a trail of dead
I choose to believe in rationality instead.
Debate Round No. 3


an asinine attitude have you actually actin n askin for attraction
Ba! Bassline batter brute if you bravely backin up benefaction
acronyms akin to alkaline still apathetically makes me assonant
Basking in a bin with battle-rhyme to better me so I'm blatant

that was a 10,000 year old alliteration of Biblical poetry you got bombarded!
if you can't do what I did, you are lyrically, mentally, and basically retarded!

let's resolve this philosophical confusion, skeptics believe absolute truth is an illusion
You diss Christ n say he's a delusion, but after this you're getting a blood transfusion

the only reason you are cynical is because you can't be this lyrical so you hate a miracle
you're death has been critical as I'm destroying you cuz you're a-typical ironic its satirical
testing skills out cuz i'm empirical as my words cause a heart-attack, so hysterical it's terrible
your laggin' n' draggin' oh so horrible the only thing that i'm skeptical is if you are repairable

In your condition, i would pray for a holy remission, how can God not be real?
after this severe incision that i'm giving, you might as well pray to be healed

Maybe after this you will realize that you've been living in lies and be at peace with your demise
Like Jewish Kohen cuttin' lambs to sides, i screwed my voice in this battle cry, rip out your evil eye

Your a hypocrite for putting so much trust in a lucky charm!
Till i break your arms as your writin' n' your raps get disarmed!
I dare you to disprove the existence of a global catastrophe!
I dare you to disprove the existence of sinful total depravity!
Scientifically explain to me biblical stories through nature's forces!
Oh wait that's right, your so ignorant that you just talk with no sources!

The Torah says that we are put in a position of evil till we drop on our knees n' believe!
Destroy your frontal lobe that logically thinks that evidence won't do till to God you cleave!


You're morally malevolent thanks to a murderous master
Faith? Man you can't turn me off faster
Bring in claims of resurrection and get met with laughter
Where was God in all of our disasters?
He's a mafia boss, creating the threat of eternal torture
But hey, you're saved! Thank God for your culture
The truth is truth isn't barred by borders.
How many have been burnt by heavenly orders?
Your mind is marred by your mortality
So scared of your death you mess with reality
An unmoved mover, an unkillable killer, the causality
Make of a list of all Yahweh's casual casualties
Exempt from his own rules, how can he be trusted?
Genocidal, sexist, homophobic living in a book that needs dusted
All loving God that for whom you all rave?
For how many killed is another saved?
For how many freed has he made a slave?

Death after death, every blood soaked page
I'd rather burn in Hell than act on his heavenly stage
A wake of bones and victims, he's on his own level
You worship God? He looks more like a devil
So old and outdated just like your religion
Corrupting minds of humans, deserting his "children"
He's grown pretty mute, only speaking in contradictions
It's satisfying to see an system that has enjoyed such domination
Split into 30,000 denominations.
Read your Bible, then say who should be damned
Use your mind, then tell me who's living a sham
Tell me, how long until the lion eats the lambs?
Debate Round No. 4


My blind rage in a rampage as i obliterate is more powerful than this text!
After i shatter every spirit left in you, let DDO know Blade of Truth is next!

If all the pain, scars, n' destruction didn't dismember you in this curse!
Then you don't even realize you just made it a thousand times worse!
When i spit, i loudly declare God'll kill Satan with his violent divine breath!
The Word of God'll shatter evil so you can't recognize the face of death!

Within split seconds, i unleash the barrage of brutal violence!
Right here, your only making your last stand after total silence!
My fury will leave you dead on the street and as Jesus said in an eternal sleep!
Screw DDO's elite! I'll annihilate you and your belief, have you buried 90 feet deep!

I'm the released beast choppin' you to pieces with dual blades, you won't be able to rationalize my cruel ways!
This bloody massacre has been worse than the crusades, so i'ma free your soul by brutalizing your rib-cage!
My lyrical style in it's agility will send volatile winds across the vicinity as i send 10,000 blows to your face!
As i'm going so wild, so fast, like a wing chun master, i'ma shatter the backbone of your argument out of place!
Forget the punchlines!, i send deadly fists n' hits as your skull splits to my metaphorical damage til each hand breaks!

When i ask you "do you believe in a spiritual being called God?" You say "I don't know!"
When i ask you "do you believe in a physical being called Santa?" You respond "Hell no!"
So your inconsistent agnosticism with atheism are on death row! now watch them die slow!
You shouldn't have faced me, cuz of now your in my way of a rap war, i'm just brutalizing!
Your way past realizing that your just having a mental breakdown, your dehumanizing!

I'ma let you pick your own path of life, starting with Buddhism!
Your going to need nirvana to escape from this "in-humanism"!
It won't matter what religion you pick, either way your still mentally sick!
With the way your logic is, you belong in an ancient age with a mortar brick!

Cuz for you as an agnostic, your lost in time, can't make up your mind!
You have no solid philosophical position cuz your psyche just declined!
All your spittin' is just temper tantrums to a God you can't comprehend!
Just know that one day, you will bow before him and you fearfully will bend!

So i will reiterate this, i got holy power emantin' from me that'll destroy the reaper!
I might be a spiritual leader who trusts in God, but don't underestimate this preacher!
I deliver verses full of fatalities leave you beyond galaxies, so learn from your teacher!
From now, you'll be wakin' up every night as you respect n' fear my name: Truth_seeker!


Your faith is really sad but I think youre starting to see
Comparing Yahweh to Santa Claus says more about you than me
I'm an agnostic atheist, but you need to learn proper definitions
Clearing this issue so much I'm too familiar with the repetition
Your rap is so violent it almost puts God to shame
But look at his Loving word and then you look tame
Letting evil exist in the first place? Yahweh is to blame
If you take a look in the eye of evil and Yahweh's the name
What did Satan even do? He's the true hero
Had his own son be killed, friend list down to zero
Dehumanizing? You must be realizing that your nothing
To a God who lies and burn eyes. From nothing you can't get something
Which means from the emptiness in his heart you can't find love
Take a page from the Ark, fly out like the dove
Look in the mirror,
Try to see the truth clearer
Wake up to your life, the humanity in strife,
Monogamy? What was the name of Solomon's 700th wife?
Contradictions with each breath, but he still speaks the truth?
Do me a favor, look up the burden of proof
Falling down on inconsistencies, human's have opened our eyes
Turns out some of don't need Gods to deal with demise
Have fun in heaver, try not the think of the fries
You know? The things that were once humans? They had memories and lives
Tortured for a minimal crime, definition of immorality
Talking snake? Ark? Ressurection? Please seek refuge in reality
Can't see past the indoctrination, I'm speaking to you not Hindus
Jesus is the saviours? Messiah? You should probably consult the Jews
So scared of dying, don't know what to do.
I'm not afraid of the grave.
My life doesn't need to be saved.
I find refuge in what is true.
Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: I really like the flow and content. I found pro to have overall better technique.
Vote Placed by Blade-of-Truth 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I'm voting this a 4-2 split. The reason being that Pro had, as others pointed out, more consistency in his rhymes. A common trend I noticed with Con's rounds were that they all would start out great but somewhat fizzle in the last half. In regards to the consistency, again even in the first round you see some bars which just don't rhyme at all, or are clearly stretching for a rhyme but not quite hitting the mark. Con gets 2 points still though because his rhymes were extremely clever and truly did play on some of the logical fallacies and unknowable claims that Christians make. All in all, great battle. I would recommend to Con to try and not mis-rhyme words, it really affects the flow and punch-factor of the bars.
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Reasons for voting decision: Both had really awesome rhymes, good job. I'm not that familiar with rap, so this is rather hard. I felt that pro had better arguments and more consistency, and that con was close, but not quite there.
Vote Placed by ShadowKingStudios 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con had many good punches. His R3 spits were solid. Pro used lots of word that illustrated his fire. Any if you truely only judging text lyrics I key factor to look at is the rapper depicting that "in the zone" mindset where complete annihilation is the only mindset. Pro was in a zone for R2 to the end, never taking his foot off the gas. Con gets last 2 points because the so-called "impractical claims" of the Bible are widely debated and he exploited them well.