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stargateman
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Batmon
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U.S.S enterprise vs The Ancient city of Atlantis as in Stargate Atlantis

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/27/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,912 times Debate No: 11896
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stargateman

Pro

In my first argument i would like to state that the city of Atlantis has the most powerful shields ever and the most advanced weapons Drones and they can go straight through shields as in this video and go to the end to see the weapons being fired and the city can fly and fight as in this video so that ends my first point.
Batmon

Con

What you are forgetting is that the city of Atlantis is dependant on its power source. without that power source, Atlantis can't use its shields, cant move and is pretty much crippled. Also, my opponent did not state the condition of this fight, so any one of the enterprises members could have infiltrated Atlantis and sabotaged their power source. An example of how they could do this is that doctor McCoy could apply for a job at the infirmary. Also, once the power is cut, the cell block shields will open letting out some of the most dungarees villains in the series. therefore I urge a con vote.
Debate Round No. 1
stargateman

Pro

You have stated that the city will run out of power but the power can last for ever depending and with thee ZPM,s the city could last for years and the city does not hold prisoners and you have so far stated nothing about the integrity or strength of your ship. My city also has puddle jumpers that can fire drones and fight hard as well as cloke and jump into hyperspace they are little insane fighting vessels. There for i stand Pro.
Batmon

Con

The whole point of my last argument was to prove that your ship has one major flaw. And I meant in my last statement that I would destroy all of your ZMPs. Also, according to http://www.st-intelligence.com..., the enterprise is a high danger ship. Also, I believe that you have many enemies and if they all attacked at once while I attacked (you did not state the condition of the fight) you would fall. Next, I would like to state the solutions to your drones. The control chair. I could use my agent to take over this chair and control the entire city. And finally, the enterprise is a federation ship, meant to either explore or be part of a fleet, so why would it go into a fight this big alone? It would have the entire federation fleet behind it because once again, you did not state the conditions of the fight.Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
stargateman

Pro

One fatal flaw you do not see is you have to have the ancient gene to control anything in the city also you could not gt past the shields only ancient ships can pass through it. Also you wanted the condition of the fight well one on one i guess everything working properly also my city is huge compared to your tiny little ship and also sense you could not pass through the shield and you don't have the ancient gene to control anything you could not try to get in the city.
Batmon

Con

First off, we already turned off the power, the shields are gone. Secondly, I never stated that I wanted a one on one fight, in fact, you didn't either. Third, bio-engineering is possible now, just think what it will be like 300 years from now, we could easily implant a gene of the ancient into anyone, or we could just kidnap some one with the gene and force him to work for us by threatening the ones they love, or we could make an alliance with the Borg (you did not say we couldn't) and control your commander with the gene of the ancients, they did it to Picard. Therefore I urge a con vote.
Debate Round No. 3
stargateman

Pro

I already said you didn't get past my shields into the base and therefore you could not get the gene and also you said 300 years from now and we are talking about now not then you would have no chance against my city and you have not said any strengths of you ship r how you could fight me and win so there for I stand Pro. Thank you.
Batmon

Con

First off, one of my main arguments was that I could easily destroy your shields, I would take out the power source so your city would be crippled. Also, I said 300 years in the future because Star Trek is set 300 years into the future. Finally, I have stated that my ship is considered a high danger ship, and I will state more specifics later in this statement, but I would like you to realize that most of enterprise's battles were won be great battle tactics which is what I have illustrated. now I will give more specifics.
Length:642.51 meters
Width:463.73 meters
Height:195.26 meters
Mass:4,500,000 metric tons
Decks:42
Crew:1014 officers
Maximum Capacity:15000
Commissioned:2360-present
Phasers:Type X
Torpedo Launchers:3
Warp Reactor:M/ARA
Normal Cruising Speed:Warp 6
Max Cruising Speed:Warp 9.2
Maximum Speed:Warp 9.6-9.9(12h)
Warp 9.6-9.9 (12h)
All of this is according to St-intellegence.com
I have defeated my opponents one argument and they have destroyed none of mine. It is for these reasons I urge a con vote.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by qingbest 5 years ago
qingbest
Number 1: Atlantis power grid is ZPMs and they are the size of a twilight book.
Number 2: No one will get passed the shields.
Number 3: Life detectors will be able to pick up intruders as they are implanted with a chip to identify themselves.
Number 4: Drones weave in and out of the shields and make them useless
Number 5: I have to agree with Stargateman.
Posted by tmoney226 7 years ago
tmoney226
just changed my vote, GO BATMON
Posted by Batmon 7 years ago
Batmon
i didnt cheat
Posted by tmoney226 7 years ago
tmoney226
i voted for stargateman only because batmon cheated, although batmon had more convincing arguments.
Posted by stargateman 7 years ago
stargateman
hahaha tmoney not going to work
Posted by tmoney226 7 years ago
tmoney226
The resolution is set up wrong, it should be something like USS enterprise is better than atlantis.
Posted by Batmon 7 years ago
Batmon
sorry, i picked the wrong pelling in spell checking dangourous
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