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UKIP's views are ir-rational and they should not be considered as a major party for election

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/22/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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hectordebator

Pro

UKIP's views are totally irrational and are in some way racist. They confront people in inappropriate ways for there political status, and everything they do it contradictory and controversial. For example Nigel Forage hired his German wife as his personal secretary. not only is this nepotism but it is also contradictory nonsense. May I remind you that UKIP is against the EU, and against immigration from Europe.

There for the Views of UKIP are ludicrous and plain stupid.
The_Debate_Czar

Con

To begin, thank you for offering this excellent topic.

You may disagree with the views of the UK Independence Part, but that does not make them irrational or constitute a removing of their party from the ballot. The UK Independence Party appeals to a specific sect of voters that are seriously concerned with the effects that immigration, globalization and supranationalism has had on the UK. Their platform may be considered unfavorable to some but to many it is aligns with their viewpoints. I will address each part of their platform separately and described how it can be rationalized and why it is necessary in the electoral process.

Euroscepticism- Perhaps the backbone of the UKIP is its persistent Eurosceptic viewpoint. The UKIP's main grievance with the current UK government is its membership in the European Union. The UKIP would prefer the UK's withdrawal from the EU and explicitly states why they believe so:
Immigration- The UKIP believes the free migration between EU member states is a serious threat to the stability of the British economy. It is seriously worried about the effect of Eastern European immigrants on wages in Britain. The Eastern Europeans migrate to Britain and are willing to work for less than many British industrial workers. They then use their earnings as remittance, bringing it back to their home countries. This acts as a wealth drain from Britain and puts many hard-working British nationals out of work. The UKIP wishes to gain these people their jobs back and prevent a flood of working immigrants who could seriously devastate the British economy and industrial sector.
Parliamentary Sovereignty- the concept of parliamentary sovereignty was cemented in the UK in 1688 with the Glorious Revolution. This concept asserts that the British parliament is to be dominated by no other body, whether it be monarch, supranational body or dictator. The UKIP believes the statutes passed by the EU seriously undermine this concept and take power away from parliament. Therefore it supports Britain's withdrawal from the EU to prevent the Council of Ministers of the EU from interfering with British sovereignty.
Isolationism/Nationalism- The UKIP wishes to re-establish British independence from continental matters. It recalls the historical independence of the British isles as something to be proud of and encourages British Nationalism for its unique culture. The EU largely ignores these cultural benchmarks in its quest for a modern society.

Neoliberalist Economics- The UKIP supports a classic conservative economic platform for the British economy. It believes restricted immigration along with a decrease in regulation will serve to grow the British economy while also alleviating many from poverty and raising wages across the isles. They also support low tax rates, as they believe it contributes to economic growth, which will in turn deliver similar tax revenue as the higher rates while letting the British people keep their money.

Defense- The UKIP supports a modernization of the British military through a 40% increase in defense spending. This modernization will help the UK in its defense endeavors and protection in the future. Despite this, the party also supports isolationism, as it believes the UK should stop interfering in other countries affairs and worry about its own domestic affairs

I hope I have outlined the platform of the UK Independence Party to your liking and explained its rational basis. The party is a classic showing of libertarianism. It is composed of individuals who are skeptical about globalization and supranationalism and wish for a return to British focus on domestic policy. It is extremely relevant to the British electoral process as part of a successful multi-party democracy is providing political parties on all parts of the spectrum. The UKIP is a rightist party who stands up for the conservative principles that are largely lost in the 21st century globalized world. It therefore is a vital party for elections as it provides a nationalism-driven alternative to the established parties in the UK's elections.
Debate Round No. 1
hectordebator

Pro

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The_Debate_Czar

Con

I suppose I will use this round to rebut some of your points in your opening.

In reference to your accusation of Nepotism, many prominent officials have hired their spouses for secretarial jobs or simple assistance jobs. The practicality of this is easy to see, as not only does it save money for the couple, but it also offers a close relationship between the secretary and leader of the group, as they can easily communicate as spouses.

You accuse them of being racist, but their policy is not remotely race based. They have pledged full civil rights for non-Britons in the UK, simply only proposing that future immigration to Britain be limited to strengthen its economy.

I also must draw attention to the recent Local Elections in the UK. The UKIP had an excellent support showing in the UK's local elections and the European Parliament. In the local elections, it gained 128 seats to bring it up to 163 total, as it closes in on the 3rd place Liberal Democratic Party. This shows on the local scale, many Britons agree with the preaching of the UKIP leaders, desiring simple yet effective solutions to the UK's complex economic problems. In the European Parliament Elections, the UKIP fared even better, boasting the highest percentage of the vote defeating the Tories, Labour and the Liberal Democrats. Estimates indicate that the UKIP reeled in nearly 30% of the votes and 22 MEPs, up 10 from a few years back. This impressive showing proves the vitality of the UKIP to the British electoral system and represents the growing importance of it in Britain's politics due to its engaging policies.
Debate Round No. 2
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Pro

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The_Debate_Czar

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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