Ultimate Team War - Isle Delfino
Team leader: One of the debaters here, i.e. me or my opponent
Team member: One of the five chosen warriors.
Team Pro: My team.
Team Con: My opponent's team.
1. The war will take place on Isle Delfino, the sunny vacation site in Super Mario Sunshine. After 20 minutes, a flash flood will occur as seen in the game, submerging a good part of the island in water until the end of the war. All Piantas, Nokis, Yoshis, and Tanookis have been evacuated, and the Shine Gate has been completely restored with 120 Shines.
All warps between locations are assumed to be two-way, unlike the one-way warps in the game from Delfino Plaza to anywhere on the island, with the exception of the cannon that leads to Pinna Park. Additionally, all invisible walls that prevented other travel between locations have been removed.
2. No character may travel more than 1,000 feet underground, nor 1,000 feet from the coastline of the island, nor 1,000 feet above Corona Montain's peak.
3. There will be no demi-god characters that are capable of travelling at ridiculous speeds, shattering almost any barriers in their way sustaining little damage to themselves, and wiping out anything, like Superman or Sentry, or anything more powerful than that. Nor will therebe any unlimited powers that cannot be resisted.If you're in doubt, just ask.
4. Other illegal powers include time travel and mind control (taking over an opposing character).
5. Any team member must be either real or, if fictional, verifiably existent. No characters may be made up for the purpose of this debate.
6. In the case of a fictional character, the team member's abilities must be according to a specific canon chosen by the team leader.
7. Every character has only the equipment that they generally have in the specified canon.
8. Team members are absolutely loyal to the team leader. All team members are still subjected to their own emotions, however.
9. The team leader may not directly participate in the competition, but may only facilitate. The role of the team leader is to explain what the team would do and why it would win against the opposing team.
10. Neither team can have a member in common. If one team leader chooses a team member, the other team cannot have that character.
11. A team wins when all members of an opposing team are dead, unconscious, or essentially unusable. Characters who cannot be dead, unconscious, or unusable are not allowed.
12. The winning team automatically receives Arguments and Sources. Conduct, in addition to regular things, goes to the person who follows the rules most effectively. Please remember this rule.
Round 1: Rule specifications; PRO unveils first three team members, CON unveils all five team members. PRO also chooses the location of his team at the start of the fight; CON then chooses a different location.
Round 2: PRO unveils his final two team members and explains why his team is better. CON also begins his arguments.
Round 3, 4, 5: Arguments and rebuttals. CON may not present any new arguments during round 5, since PRO has no chance to rebut them.
My team will start in Delfino Plaza, and each character will have an individual starting position within Delfino Plaza. My opponent must choose a separate starting location as listed on Isle Delfino's wiki page.
Team Member 1: Charizard
More specifically, I use Ash's Charizard from the anime. Charizard is a powerful Fire/Flying-type Pokémon that also looks like a dragon.
His wiki: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net...'s_Charizard
Charizard will start at Delfino Plaza's entrance to Mt. Corona.
Team Member 2: Link
Team Member 3: Harry Potter
All Pokemon should, as in Mystery Dungeon, have all available abilities. This means your Charizard additionally has Solar Power, while Zapdos also gets LightningRod and Vaporeon gets Hydration. All Pokemon should be at level 100 for the sake of fairness in comparison between Pokemon.
It shall be the one mentioned here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net...(movie_2)#Zapdos
It is essentially a large, Electric/Flying bird of destruction.
Zapdoswill start perched at the top of the obscure building thing at Rico Harbor.
It shall be this one:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net...
It is a Psychic type with a rediculously high IQ and powerful Psychic attacks, including Teleport, which is always fun. It shall start meditating on top of one of the buidings.
3. Albus Dumbledore
Known as the most powerful wizard, he shall be using the Elder Wand.
He is standing next to Alakazam.
The Water evolution of the Evolution Pokemon, it can melt into the water and reappear elsewhere. It has Water Absorb and Hydration.
Vaporeon is melted into the water. He he!
She is a Twili Imp of great power. She possesses the Fused Shadows. She can turn into shadow or Twilight particles.
Midna is currently Alakazam's shadow.
May the battle commence.
My opponent first claims that Charizard has Solar Power, Zapdos has LightningRod, and Vaporeon has Hydration. However, these abilities are only present on Pokemon from the Dream World, a world introduced in Generation V. None of the Pokemon involved are from the Dream World, which doesn't exist in the anime, so none of them have Dream World abilities.
Now, for my team members:
4. Blue-Eyes White Dragon
This legendary dragon is a powerful engine of destruction. Virtually invincible, very few have faced this awesome creature and lived to tell the tale.
His wiki: http://yugioh.wikia.com...
He shall start atop the Shine Gate.
Once Gyarados goes on a rampage, its ferociously violent blood doesn't calm until it has burned everything down. There are records of this Pokémon's rampages lasting a whole month.
More speficically, I use Misty's Gyarados.
His wiki: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net...
He shall start in the water.
Link hops atop Blue-Eyes, and Harry jumps on Charizard, who quickly flies up. The two dragons fly towards Ricco Harbor, as Gyarados moves in by sea. Harry casts a Bedazzling Hex on Gyarados so that it becomes invisible. Zapdos will be the first enemy visible, especially if it is trying to take out Gyarados. Link can fire a single Ice Arrow to freeze it; leaving it an easy target for a Hyper Beam KO.
When the two dragons arrive at Ricco Harbor, Harry quickly fires an Expelliarmus at Dumbledore, disarming him, as Blue-Eyes fires White Lightning at Alakazam, KOing him and destroying Midna, who is particularly weak to light. If that doesn't work, Charizard's Flamethrower and Link's Light Arrow will do the trick. Dumbledore will surely be knocked unconscious in the resulting explosions. Any survivors of that onslaught will be consumed by Harry's Fiendfyre spell.
This leaves only Vaporeon. Link can hop atop Gyarados, and using a combination of Chateau Romani and the Lens of Truth, he can easily find where Vaporeon hides. From there, Gyarados can fire a destructive Hyper Beam into the water, KOing Vapoeron.
That's all five enemy characters down in three paragraphs. Good luck, mongoose!
While my opponent is sending his team to Ricco Harbor, my team is setting up. Zapdos uses Rain Dance. negating Charizard's Solar Power. Alakazam sets up Reflect, Safeguard, and Light Screen. Vaporeon uses Aqua Ring. Midna uses the power of the Fused Shadows to turn into the giant Twilit beast thing.
As Team Mongeese approaches, Zapdos uses Thunder on Gyarados. Even though Link is trying to freeze it with an Ice Arrow, it is raining, they are far away, and Zapdos is flying in an erratic pattern, making it very difficult to hit. Even though Gyarados is invisible, Thunder has infinite accuracy. Because it is Water/Flying, and thus double-weak to Electric attacks, and Zapdos gets STAB for being an Electric type, Gyarados has no chance.
Once the two dragons are near the harbor, Vaporean leaps from the water and fires an Ice Beam straight at the Blue-Eyes White Dragon. It being, arguably, a Dragon/Flying type, it would be completely frozen to death, and plummet into the water with Link on it. Now Link is in the water, at the mercy of the Vaporeon. He can be dealt with later.
Charizard is severely weakened by the rain. Dumbledore casts a Flame-Freezing Charm on Charizard, essentially rendering all of it's fire attacks useless! Fun! Meanwhile, Alakazam is uses Trick on Harry Potter, stealing his wand. Dumbledore can easily protect himself from a simple Expelliarmus charm with Protego. He then fires Avada Kadavra, killing Harry instantly. Vaporeon can use Hydro Pump to essentially destroy Charizard easily. Charizard is generally useless in the rain.
Link is still in the water. Either Vaporeon can kill him with Surf, or Alakazam can use Psychic, levitate him in the air, and have everybody use whatever attack they like (Hydro Pump, magical spear of doom, Thunder, Avada Kadavra, etc.) At that point it's clear who wins.
Essentially, my opponent tries to attack my well prepared team and can't be ready for what they meet when they get there. If Blue-Eyes does manage to get a White Lightning Attack in, Zapdos's Lightning Rod ability would not only draw the attack to it, but allow it to absorb its energy to increase its own attack power. Otherwise, Alakazam can use a simple Protect.
All my opponent's plans depend on my team being sitting ducks just waiting for him to kill him. He gets to learn the hard way that that's not how it works.
He continues to insist that Pokémon have their Dream World abilities. He bases this on the fact that Zadpos took no damage from Pikachu's electricity in the second movie. However, Pikachu also received no damage from Zapdos' electricity. This was because they were communicating using electricity, not attacking each other with it .
Additionaly, Pikachu, who would have received the Dream World ability Lightningrod if my opponent's arguments were true, hadbeen damaged by an Electabuzz's Thunderpunch in Season 2. The abilities would have to be added after Season 2, which is the same season that Zapdos is from, so in the movie, Zapdos did not have LightningRod.
He also usesthe fan term "Hidden Ability" to make Zapdos finding the ability plausible, but all Pokémon in the games only gain abilities when they are born. Zapdos is no exception.
I would also like to invoke Rule #6. As Dream World abilities are not present in the anime, Zapdos cannot have its Dream World ability.
Now, he also has Zapdos use Rain Dance. Harry can counter with Meteolojinx Recanto.
He also wants Alakazam to use numerous setup moves, but Alakazam never actually uses those moves in the anime, and we can't assume that it knows every move it can possibly learn. If it could, when it battled Corphish, it would have been using Thunderpunch or Thunderboltinstead of Focus Punch. Alakazam does not have those convenient setup moves.
Same goes for Vaporeon's Aqua Ring, which is made more ridiculous by the fact that Aqua Ring is a Generation IV attack, and no Vaporeon from Generaton I, like the one my opponent chose, would possibly have it.
Now, as I predicted, Zapdos will be the first encounter. As Zapdos fires a Thunder attack on Gyarados, Gyarados uses Protect, negating the attack. As Zapdos has to concentrate it energy while attacking, Link can surprise it with an Ice Arrow, freezing it. Gyarados follows up with a Hyper Beam, KOing it. I also really can't see a Zapdos, large as it is, flying erratically. That's what hummingbirds do, not eagles.
Also note that the rest of my team is actually flying towards Zapdos, intending to intercept it. If Zapdos ever fires at the dragon brigade instead, a Protego from Harry will do the trick of stopping it, and Link's Ice Arrow will still work wonders in damaging and freezing Zapdos.
Vaporeon also intends to surprise everyone with a sneak Ice Beam attack. Link can fire a Fire Arrow to negate the attack, easily. Vaporeon is rather far away, anyway. Ricco Harbor puts at least 200 feet between the water and the top of a building, and Blue-Eyes is flying another 100 feet above that. This distance gives Link more time to intercept the attack, and Blue-Eyes more time to dodge it. To be safe, Charizard can intercept the beam with Flamethrower, a sure negation, and Harry could protect Blue-Eyes with a Protego.
Even if Blue-Eyes were hit, Link would defrost it with an Ice Arrow, as he did with the Masked Mechanical Bull Goht. Blue-Eyes would continue to fly towards his target, Alakazam.
Additionally, firing Ice Beam would expose Vaporeon to Gyarados, who just swam into Ricco Harbor invisibly. A Hyper Beam would blast Vaporeon into the wall of the harbor, knocking it unconscious. The beam would also damage Ricco Harbor's structure, causing the buildings to shake, ruining the concentration of Alakazam and Dumbledore.
To take out Charizard, my opponent wants to use a Flame-Freeze charm on Charizard, but the charm works on fire, not fire-attributed beasts. The charm can counter individual attacks, but not all of Charizard's future attacks.
If the charm ever does work by some violation of the rules of magic, Charizard will drop Harry off with Blue-Eyes and go take a dip in Mt. Corona to refresh himself. Maybe he will even stay a while.
As for Alakazam using Trick, this runs into the same problem mentioned earlier with using so many moves. There's also the question as to whether or not he can hit a moving foe with the move. Pokémon battles are held in standstill, and in the anime, the target was also still. Alakazam would have a difficult time taking Harry's wand away from him, and is also distracting himself from the true threat: Blue-Eyes White Dragon.
Harry's Expelliarmus may have been blocked, but it has distracted Dumbledore; in negating Expelliarmus, he has no hope of negating White Lightning, which will obliterate him. Avada Kedavra would also be useless, as Charizard can fly out of the way of the attack or block the attack himself; it wont work on a creature as powerful as Charizard. Charizard and Blue-Eyes then jointly destroy the building that Alakazam and Dumbledore were standing on, KOing them with it. If the two of them try to fend off the double-dragon attack, to no avail, Gyarados can fire a Hyper Beam from the water, destroying them anyway.
As for Vaporeon using Hydro Pump, again, the distance is just too much. Pokémon have dodged attacks on the ground that came from less than 50 feet away; with the mobility of air, Charizard will never be hit from 100 feet away, let alone 300. Harry could cast Impervius, making Charizard immune to water and negating the negative effects of the rain (assuming Harry's magic didn't eliminate it already), and use a Protego as well, just in case.
My opponent also makes the faulty assumption that Link will let himself be killed in the water. On the contrary, he will don the Zora mask, allowing him extreme mobility in the water. He also has a magical shield attack that can be used in conjunction with his superhuman swimming speed and the Lens of Truth to take down Vaporeon like no tomorrow. The Chateau Romani will help in this regard, giving Link three whole days of magic power. After Vaporeon is gone, Link can hop atop Gyarados and lead the charge of destroying the rest of Team CON. His rain of arrows will certainly be a surprise to them, as they left Link for hopeless. If Gyarados and the rest of Team PRO has been defeated, by some breach of logic, Link can hide anywhere in the water of Isle Delfino, and Team CON has no way of finding him at all without Vaporeon, forcing a draw.
This still leaves the Twilit Beast Midna. Given her weakness to light, and Blue-Eyes' LIGHT attribute, a White Lightning attack will probably remind Midna of the traumatic experience of being exposed to a Light Spirit. That attack almost killed her. This attack certainly will. To add to her demise, Link can fire a Light Arrow, with light powerful enough to stun Ganon. Midna is almost useless in this fight.
My opponent also assumes that Zapdos, if it had LightningRod, would absorb a White Lightning attack. However, White Lightning is just the American name for the real attack name, Burst Stream of Destruction. It's not actual lightning, it just looks like lightning. Besides, Zapdos was already defeated when it tried to take on Gyarados.
As for Alakazam using Protect, Anabel's Alakazam doesn't know Protect. It can't use it.
I would like to highlight that my opponent relies on Vaporeon to take down Charizard and Blue-Eyes. When Vaporeon is taken down by Gyarados or Link, these two become essentially unstoppable. Additionally, Charizard can fly into Mt. Corona, where the lava heals him. What can anyone on Team CON do to defeat Charizard at that point? Nobody else can survive the intense heat. Charizard would be able to fire Flamethrowers from within the volcano, forcing a draw.
To conclude, the joint attack by my team, as well as the poor placement of my opponent's team members, makes this an easy fight in my favor. Good luck with your next round, mongoose!
Additionally, its power to use Rain Dance creates massing thunderstorms: "This legendary bird Pokémon causes savage thunderstorms by flapping its glittering wings" . This is a very powerful storm. It is very doubtful that a simple jinx could get rid of it, which was only historically used to remove a simple magical rain from an office. It probably can't remove this storm brought on by a legendary Pokemon.
He also doesn't think that Alakazam can use the defensive moves I want it to. For the sake of keeping the debate focused on the actual fight, I will not have him use Light Screen or Safeguard, but he shall use Reflect, as he learns it through level-up. Also during set up, Dumbledore will use a Disillusionment Charm on himself, Alakazam, and Midna, who are all relatively small. Midna shall, instead of using the Fused Shadows, float away and around the opponent.
Now, I doubt that a Bedazzling Hex could make an entire Gyarados turn invisible. The only evidence of this spell has been that it could make Invisibility cloaks, which are much smaller and completely inanimate. It is doubtful that it is so simple to make a giant sea serpent invisible.
My opponent says Link will fire an Ice Arrow at Zapdos. However, Zapdos will, instead of trying to attack a distant Gyarados, fire a Thunder attack back at the Blue-Eyes White Dragon, which would go through the arrow, completely destroying it, and continue to shock the Blue-Eyes. In the rain, it has infinite accuracy. This electric shock may not be enough to kill the dragon, it being a Dragon to combat it's original Flying weakness, but it should be more than enough to kill Link, who is unable to drive the charge of the attack into the ground. He dies and falls off. Any Harry may attempt a Shield Charm, but according to the wiki: "The Shield Charm is a charm that creates a magical barrier which deflects minor to moderate hexes as well as any physical entities" . Thunder, being the most powerful Electric attack coming from one of the most powerful Electric Pokemon, is nothing close to moderate.
As far as Zapdos being unable to easily dodge attacks in the air, for future reference, it can. It learns Detect by level-up. This allows it to temporarily dodge everything with ease. 
Next my opponent claims that Vaporeon's Ice Beam will not hit the Blue-Eyes. His two main defenses are to kill the beam with fire, and to dodge it. However, it is raining. This rain would put out the Fire Arrow and greatly weaken the Flamethrower. the video at 1:38. That is the speed of Ice Beam. It would be impossible to intercept the beam AT AN ANGLE. That would require rediculous timing. After using the Ice Beam, it could just hide back in the water, easily avoiding the rather slow Gyarados that wandered into the harbor. At this point Zapdos will focus its attention on Gyarados, and both it and Vaporeon will take it down with a combination of Thunder and Ice Beam.
So Alakazam will not use Trick. However, if the Blue-Eyes is still there to kill them, which in itself is doubtful, then he can use Teleport to put both himself and Dumbledore in the air behind Charizard, where Dumbledore can use Avada Kadavra to kill Harry. Alakazam can use Psychic.
If my opponent tries to switch up who fights who, then Vaporeon or Zapdos can easily take out Charizard, who is almost worthless in the rain, and use their elemental attacks to defeat Harry. Ice Beam would surely take out Blue-Eyes if it tried to attack them.
If Link does end up in the water, then Zapdos can take him out with Thunder, or Vaporeon with Ice Beam. Zora Link is weak to Ice.
If Charizard tries to stall out in a volcano, then he will starve as my team eats fruit from the island. Also, Vaporeon could use Hydro Pump to fill the volcano with water, killing Charizard.
In conlcusion, Team Mongoose wins.
Thank you, mongoose, for your response.
Second, it doesn't matter how powerful of a wizard Harry is. It still wouldn't be nearly the natural power of Zapdos. The effect of the jinx itself is in question. We have no way of knowing how long it's effect takes, or how much rain it was able to stop. This is an all-out THUNDERSTORM. The attempt to kill it with fire is laughable. He is attempting to evaporate CLOUDS. That doesn't even make sense. The fire will naturally put itself out at some point, when it runs out of fuel, and more thunderstorms will be continuously created by Zapdos' presence. This would also take extreme concentration from Harry, who already has to concentrate on making Gyarados invisible. All in all, it is a difficult task, too much for Harry to accomplish without leaving himself in the open for attack.
My opponent says that the Disillusionment Charm wasn't a part of the plan. That isn't what this debate is about. I'm not "making a plan." I'm explaining how my team would win. Dumbledore is much smarter than me, and so is Alakazam (by a LOT). They would follow this plan. "The role of the team leader is to explain what the team would do and why it would win against the opposing team." This is how they would win. After the trio is invisible, they being their teleportation to attack Team Mongeese.
My opponent believes that Dumbledore will fall to his death. He could easily and quickly cast Arresto Momentum to stop his fall. He cast it from a very large distance without a wand to stop Harry's large fall. By using before he even begins falling, he doesn't fall at all.
My opponent seems to be under the impression that the invisible trio are waiting for the dragons to arrive before teleporting. This is false. This is going on at the same time that Zapdos and Vaporeon are on the offensive. He can't be defending from both at once.
Next he wonders why Zapdos isn't killing Gyarados. This is because Zapdos doesn't see a Gyarados, it being invisible. It sees a Blue-Eyes White Dragon. In the video I have provided, Pikachu uses Thunder in less than a second. around 4:32. Bulbapedia has declared that attack Thunder. Note that the video my opponent provided was the very first time that Ash's Pikachu ever used Thunder, as it had just learned it. Zapdos would be extremely experienced with it, being Lv. 100. It would also be very difficult for Link to aim at Zapdos, as it would be dark until it was lit up by its Thunder attack, at which point it would be too late. Also, Link is not great at jumping. He only does so to jump a gap, and never stays in the air for very long at all. Jumping while on a dragon would be difficult. It would probably strike before the arrow is released, as Link must pull out his pow, pull out an arrow, wait for the magic of the Ice Arrow to apply, find Zapdos, and fire. The power of the charge would not be containable by the sole metal tip of the arrow. The arrow would melt or explode. The vast majority of the attack would hit Blue-Eyes. The Protego charm would also be difficult to use to protect a giant dragon. If the dragon tries to counterattack, then it is not able to try to dodge Vaporeon's Ice Beam. So the only defense left is Charizard's Flamethrower, however, this would have to combat the rain and the timing. He's also being distracted by the invisible trio.
Link would take several hearts of damage, and fall off. When hit by attacks, he falls off his horse. This would be no different.
So, as Vaporeon defeats Blue-Eyes, Gyarados hits it with Hyper Beam. Vaporeon is not Knocked Out, as it has high HP. It swims away in the water and uses Aqua Ring to slowly heal itself. It learns this attack by level-up.
Now to discuss what the three invisible team members are doing. They are attacking Harry and Charizard. This would make it difficult for the two of them to protect Blue-Eyes from Thunder and Ice Beam. Dumbledore unleashes Avada Kadavra on Harry, and if he dodges, will hit Charizard instead. Alakazam uses Psychic to control Harry's motion and slam him into the lava in the volcano, which would kill him. Midna punches Harry in the face with her hair, similar to how she shattered Zant.
After Gyarados uses Hyper Beam, Zapdos is able to hit it with a Thunder, as it both knows where it is, and after using the attack it is more exposed and would have difficulty using Protect. Thunder would take it out in an instant.
My opponent argues that an Alakazam lost to a Corphish. Ash pretty much cheated. He recalled Corphish then sent it right back out to cure its Confusion, and instantly used an attack to Knock Out Alakazam. That was poor sportsmanship. In the real fight previously, Alakazam won, and continued to Knock Out a Tauros and damage Pikachu.
Finally, my opponent's rediculous stall-out arguments. First of all, Charizard still needs to eat if is stays in the volcano, while my team eats food. Some of the food is in areas that aren't hit by the flood. These areas are next to the ocean, so it would be impossible for it to fill unless the entire ocean rose by many, many feet. This is not what the flash flood did. Second of all, water does work in the volcano. Mario used it there. FLUDD's water did not evaporate. Vaporeon has much more water than FLUDD ever did, and is constanly refreshed by the rain. It would be able to completely flood the volcano, flushing out Charizard, who would then be ultimately destroyed in such disadvantageous weather. This would also work on Goron Link.
Then there's Link. He would be able to last forever, but so would my team. However, Zapdos could use Thunder on the water, trying to hit him, and Dumbledore could use a Bubblehead charm to go underwater then kill him with Avada Kadavra. Vaporeon could flee with Quick Attack, then use Ice Beam from afar, killing Link easily as it is Zora Link's weakness.
In conclusion, stalling is dumb.
Now, it's unlikely that the jinx takes any significant amount of time; spells are usually instantaneous. The spell just eliminates any magic weather effect; the extent of the weather is not an issue.
Now, as for the Fiendfyre, why doesn't it make sense? The fire would be so hot that the bonds that hold the clouds in shape break apart, leaving just water vapor again, unable to condense into water droplets. Any rain that was already falling would evaporate immediately. If Zapdos continues to make rain clouds, it will itself be caught in the Fiendfyre, and burned to a crisp.
My opponent questions Harry's concentration, but Harry has already sufficiently made Gyarados invisible before this spell, and only needs to concentrate long enough to get the fire into the air; after that, it will burn through all of the clouds, then descend. As the clouds are most tightly packed around Ricco Harbor, where Zapdos started, Ricco Harbor would soon be in flames, ruining most of Team CON. This would be done well before the fight with Zapdos was initiated.
He then questions the concept that teams can't undo previous moves. This seems rather self-explanatory. After my opponent tried a plan, Team PRO demonstrated why the plan would fail in ways Team CON hadn't predicted. They can't use this new information for a new plan. Round 4 is also rather late to come up with an entirely new plan; there's a reason this debate is five rounds. The introduction of a new "invisible trio" adds to the ridiculousness.
In any case, we return to Zapdos. My opponent claims that Zapdos isn't attacking Gyarados because Gyarados is invisible, but this clearly contradicts his Round 2 argument, in which Zapdos could attack an invisible Gyarados. With no reason for Zapdos to attack Blue-Eyes, Zapdos attacks Gyarados and fails, exposing it to an Ice Arrow, rendering Zapdos useless. To counter the video, it took an additional 1.5 seconds for Pikachu to prepare to use Thunder, with the additional second covering only the release of Thunder.
Claiming that Link would have difficulty aiming is an insult to his eyesight; the shadows of a thunderstorm are nothing compared to what he went though in the Shadow Temple. Link can jump not only over gaps but also in ninja-like back flips, gracefully avoiding Blue-Eyes' aftershock. The process of firing an arrow may seem like a while, but Link has superhuman dexterity in this regard, taking only about a second total to strike a foe with an Ice Arrow. Add the fact that Link had been preparing this shot since Zapdos was approaching, and Link's arrow is the fastest attack we're going to see in this war. There's no reason that an arrow can't contain a Thunder attack; an explosion would end the attack, allowing another arrow to be used in its place. My opponent concedes that Blue-Eyes can block the attack, which I've already pointed out will result in Zapdos' inevitable destruction, with the only side effect being a sneak attack from Vaporeon. My opponent claims that Protego won't be able to protect an entire Blue-Eyes, but the shield need only defend against a single Ice Beam at a single point, easily blocked by magic. As this size difficulty, my opponent's only objection to this point, has been done away with, Protego now indisputably saves Blue-Eyes. Vaporeon will only get in one Ice Beam, because after that, Vaporeon has volunteered to become Gyarados' lunch.
Now, even if this did work, and Link was hit, he'd only fall off and take some damage, but he'd be far from out. A drink of Chateau Romani would refresh him, and he'd be back in the fight; after taking out Vaporeon with the undisputed Zora method, he'd climb on Gyarados and become king of the world! The entire Thunder attack comes down to dealing irrelevant damage to Link and exposing Zapdos to a Burst Stream of Destruction, which would destroy it.
Vaporeon will attack Blue-Eyes, only to be blocked by a simple Protego. Gyarados then gets his revenge. The Hyper Beam will not be what knocks out Vaporeon, but the resulting collision of flesh and solid rock as Vaporeon hits the wall. I've refuted Aqua Ring in Round 3 by pointing out that the generations don't match, so this really isn't the time to bring it up again.
We now come to the newly-formed invisible trio, which isn't really invisible with Harry Potter present. Charizard will block any attempts at Avada Kedavra; I pointed out that this wouldn't affect Charizard in Round 3, uncontested. Dumbledore, meanwhile, has no protection from Harry's own Killing Curse, although protecting Blue-Eyes is a priority. Harry was able to maintain control over his own body during the Imperious Curse, and fending off Alakazam's Psychic will be no different; he'll shrug the attack off as if it were nothing. There's also the question of how Harry will get to the lava, considering how far Mt. Corona is from the battle site; Psychic almost never throws foes more than a few meters, not kilometers. As for Midna's Fused Shadow Hair Punch attack, this can be blocked with a conjured Patronus, stated to be a defense against Dark creatures and known to repel darkness, Midna being no exception. If my opponent is allowed so many retcons, then Harry had cast the Patronus before this fight broke out, so it can be used even while resisting Alakazam. The stag would run into Midna and destroy her. The dragon-rider duo will easily stall the trio until Link is finished freezing and destroying Zapdos to Blue-Eyes, at which point White Lightning enters the scene, utterly destroying Team CON.
If Zapdos, during all of this, somehow managed to survive, and tried to attack Gyarados, the attack would be Protected against, as expected, and Link and Blue-Eyes would jointly eliminate the distracted thunderbird without breaking a sweat, in the method I've been advocating since the beginning of this debate.
Another thing to note is that in Round 4, the only plan to defeat Charizard is to use spells, conceded to be useless against Charizard in Round 3, and water, made useless by Harry's Impervious, a point also conceded in Round 3. This leaves only Zapdos able to take down Charizard, and as Zapdos is eliminated very quickly in the war, Charizard is soon made invincible.
To conclude this war:
As Harry, Charizard, Link, and Blue-Eyes (the dragon brigade) are flying directly to Ricco Harbor, Gyarados travels along the water invisibly. Zapdos will be quickly visible, and a fight will break out in the air between Link, mounting Blue-Eyes, and Zapdos, ending with Zapdos freezing and being hit by White Lightning before it can shift from Detect to Thunder. Vaporeon springs up to attack Blue-Eyes, but is blocked by Harry's Protego, and consequently hunted down by Gyarados. Meanwhile, the not-so-invisible trio suddenly attacks Harry and Charizard, but Charizard blocks Dumbledore's spells, Harry resists Alakazam's mind tricks, and Midna is destroyed by Harry's Patronus. When Blue-Eyes and Link join in, Link fires Light Arrows and Blue-Eyes launches White Lightning to destroy Alakazam and Dumbledore easily, joined by Sectumsempra and Flamethrower. If Vaporeon somehow survives a Gyarados onslaught, probably by hiding, Zora Link hunts it down and destroys it.
Thank you, mongoose, for this debate. It was enjoyable, although I wish you wouldn't come up with new arguments so late in the debate, as they become difficult to argue over. Also, thank you to the readers for reading this long debate, and remind you of Rule #12, which describes the voting procedure for this debate. RFDs would also be much appreciated.
Good luck, mongoose, in your future Ultimate Team War debates; I'm confident that you haven't won this one.
First off, my opponent's argument about the "Air Lock" jinx are pure speculation. I love the way that in his first sentence he completely avoids absolutes, but in the second he makes it appear as clear as day. The only evidence of this jinx's existence is from when Hermione suggested Ron use it to "put out" a small office rain. Even if in the case of finding a small spider in the kitchen, the solution is to just step on it, one cannot make the assumption that this same action would work on a giant, 20-foot spider. Logic doesn't work that way.
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