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debateroxs
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Universal healthcare

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Started: 2/28/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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aboruch

Pro

The US Government should grant universal healthcare to its citizens
debateroxs

Con

I will gladly take this debte. Universal health care is bad and should be rejected fro the following 5 reasons.

Messerli, Joe. http://www.balancedpolitics.org...

1)Free" health care isn't really free since we must pay for it with taxes; expenses for health care would have to be paid for with higher taxes or spending cuts in other areas such as defense, education, etc.
2)Government-controlled health care would lead to a decrease in patient flexibility. patients would have to wait long peeriods of time for there surgery
3)Healthy people who take care of themselves will have to pay for the burden of those who smoke, are obese, etc.
4)A long, painful transition will have to take place involving lost insurance industry jobs, business closures, and new patient record creation.
5)Patients may be subjected to extremely long waits for treatment

opponets case

Where are your facts and opinions??????

I should win because i gave facts my opponet didn't!
Debate Round No. 1
aboruch

Pro

These are all beliefs of what might happen...where is your evidence that this will occur?
debateroxs

Con

well i guess that you can check out the link in my case this will take you to a page and you can check out the 18 cons and look at the paragraphs number. They will give you examples. i can give you an example for each right now:

For the patient flexibilty one:The universal system in Canada forces patients to wait over 6 months for a routine pap smear. Canada residents will often go to the U.S. or offer additional money to get their health care needs taken care of.
For the one about FRee health care not being free: pretty self explanitory

For the one about patients waiting:Stories constantly come out of universal health care programs in Britain and Canada about patients forced to wait months or years for treatments that we can currently receive immediately in America

For the one about painful transistions:A universal health plan means the entire health insurance industry would be unnecessary. Which means bye bye health insurance
Where is your evidence of Uh being good???
Debate Round No. 2
aboruch

Pro

Here are my facts and opinions: health care has become unaffordable and very expensive for businesses and individuals so a lot of ppl will save money and Universal health care will also encourage patients to inquire about health problems early b/c patients often avoid physicals and other preventive measures because of the costs. Lastly Patients with pre-existing conditions can still get health coverage.
debateroxs

Con

debateroxs forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by KikoSanchez182 5 years ago
KikoSanchez182
In round 1 -
1) The instigator doesn't mention it being free, it is not a point of contention.
2) That is a biased estimation. Maybe provide citations from other similar systems. This may be hard to do, because most other government healthcare systems are much more involved. The US bill is much more insurance reform than healthcare reform.
3) This is already done through insurance.
4) I'm not sure about all of this, but yes it will take time to implement. Painful? I'm not sure abou that.
5) Same point as #3.
Posted by debateroxs 5 years ago
debateroxs
you should post already
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