The Instigator
lawstudent.1
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The Contender
RonPaulConservative
Con (against)

University fees shouldn't be allowed

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/9/2017 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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lawstudent.1

Pro

Those who get to universities with good pass rates should be rewarded. Education is a right , and educating the people for the future generations will not only benefit themselves , but the environment we live in as well.Higher education leads to a more educated and productive workforce. Countries with high rates of university education generally have higher levels of innovation and productivity growth. Also, education is an opportunity for a better future; those who are from less-privileged background, can sustain equal education opportunities, which can help them to reach a better future. With things like this , some poverty can be gone as there is still a chance of education. Another reason is that students have to work loads to pay for the loans, this may discourage them form learning as they are shown(or influenced ) to take up smaller jobs easily.
RonPaulConservative

Con

Education is not a right, nowhere in the Constitution is education protected as a right. In fact all you are entitled to as t the constitution is Life, Liberty, and Property:
"No person shall... be deprived of Life, Liberty, and Property." -the Fifth Amendment
So Property is a right, but Education is not, and someone needs to pay for your education, through taxes, i.e. theft. So what my opponent is advocating for is for us to undermine what really is a right property enable to secure that which is not a right, education.

In addition to this, colleges and universities are owned privately, which means that my opponent wants the govt to exert more control on private business. What right does the state have to say that a college or university cannot charge fees? It has no right- and neither is this power permitted under Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
Debate Round No. 1
lawstudent.1

Pro

The amendments do not apply to all . You're only talking about US laws . Maybe the government can't control the fees of uni's , but they should definitely limit the number. Education is more of a right, a need, without it , we wouldn't be here . Without education, I wouldn't even be able to debate with you right now. Education is the process that let you move forwards, without it , it could effect society and even the world. To argue with you, even the man who created the fifth amendment, the law that states that education is not a right, was a lawyer. Without the privilege of having an education, he wouldn't have been able to write this law, meaning this law wouldn't have existed.
RonPaulConservative

Con

My opponent seems to be confusing the existance of education with the government "ensuring" it, by mandate. Not acknowladging education as a right is different from saying that no one should get one. The resolution is that university fees shouldn't be allowed, as to not prevent people from getting an education. But those educations provided by sad universities are not a given, without those universities they wouldn't exist at all; what basis do you have to lay claim to the produce of other peoples labor? A university proffessor is not public property, his services are his own, and we cannot say that someone else has the right for him to teach them.
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