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Dilara
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Rami
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Vaccines can cause autism and other problems

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Started: 5/18/2015 Category: Health
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Dilara

Pro

First round. Acceptance.
Second round. Arguments.
Third round. Rebuttals.
Fourth round. Conclusions.
Thanks!
Rami

Con

I will accept this challenge, but please, let's cite sources on our arguments instead of having an entire round of sources. Plus, let's agree to only cite websites that are indisputably credible (such as major newspapers, government websites (they end in .gov), etc...), because it is too easy to find articles that someone typed up without any scientific knowledge.
Debate Round No. 1
Dilara

Pro

healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistleblower-comes-forward-admits-coverup-on-vaccine-link-to-autism/
https://m.youtube.com...
https://m.youtube.com...
healthimpactnews.com/tag/cdcwhistleblower/

A former CDC researcher came forward and admitted that him and other cdc researchers did a study in 2002, that found a link between autism and vaccines. They found that boys who had been vaccinated earlier were 300% more likely to get autism.
Rami

Con

I have to admit, vaccines can cause some problems. But if you were to take a closer look at what they are, you'll see that the chances of being hurt by vaccines are very low.
http://www.nhs.uk...
http://www.npr.org...
http://www.hhs.gov...
Debate Round No. 2
Dilara

Pro

I do not believe that vaccines should be banned. I do believe that they should not be mandatory and that each parent should choose wether they have their kid vaccinated or not. Most of the time vaccines do not cause harm to people. But sometimes they do. Everyone has different body types. Every body will react differently to vaccines. Most people will not be harmed by them but because some people will be hurt or even killed by them, vaccines shouldn't be mandatory.
Rami

Con

So, there will be deaths from vaccines. But clearly, if we knew who would suffer from vaccines, we wouldn't give them the shot (Well, to a certain extent we do know some people who couldn't handle vaccines, but I'm talking about the ones we don't know). But, if we don't, then with all the vaccine-caution parents would be way to scared to give their children vaccines. That would be terrible. We need those that can get vaccines to get them. In a sense, it's like sacrificing one to save to save the rest. It isn't something we want, but it's needed to protect from the diseases.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Rami 1 year ago
Rami
I really hate it when people say that the media is covering things up. The bigger the stories the have, the better they sell. And a whistleblower would be a very big story. Plus, all the government-run websites say vaccines are safe, so if this story is true, we can't can't rust the government, a claim I also hate.
Posted by Dilara 1 year ago
Dilara
Rami. The news covers it up. They don't want you to know about the dangers of vaccines. Vaccines usually won't cause someone harm. But occasionally they do cause harm. The pharmaceutical companies that fund various news companies and those news companies donors don't want the truth to get out. The American media isn't always truthful.
Posted by Rami 1 year ago
Rami
If is really happened, it would be all over the news. I only found it on websites that previously stated vaccines cause austim.
Posted by Dilara 1 year ago
Dilara
How about the links I gave Icaimmon. A former cdc researcher admitted that autism is caused by vaccines.
Posted by bluesteel 1 year ago
bluesteel
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>Reported vote: brandenschirpke117 // Moderator action: Removed<

3 points to Con (sources, conduct). Reasons for voting decision: pro provided youtube for a source, which is unreliable

[*Reason for removal*] (1) Failure to explain conduct. (2) Failure to explain why Con's sources were *better.* Pro also had other sources besides youtube.
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Posted by lcsimonson 1 year ago
lcsimonson
Autism doesn't happen because of vaccines. It develops during the fetal stage of brain development, and has never been linked to vaccines. The only thing that vaccines do is help you to be immune to sicknesses.
Here is my source:
https://www.autismspeaks.org...
Posted by Rami 1 year ago
Rami
I found out this person is a Muslim, so perhaps they have religious problems with the formula of the vaccine or something and they took up these faulty claims to defend themselves. If this is the case, then I can understand their position and I only wish they could have said this earlier.
Posted by Rami 1 year ago
Rami
Me neither. It's sad people have a hard time giving up their anti-vaxx positions.
Posted by AndyHood 1 year ago
AndyHood
I can't believe that this subject is even still in the public consciousness - apart from as a shining example of how completely idiotic even intelligent humans are capable of being... this subject should serve as a warning for how dangerously bad ideas can spread; we should teach the whole story, from beginning to end, in schools so that such nonsense has less chance of repeating. Oh, the stupid it buuuurns.
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