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Vaccines cause brain damage and autism.

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Started: 4/7/2015 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Since the vaccine schedule was increased in the 1990's autism rates and other learning disorders have sky rocketed. Thousands of parents all have the same story of their kid's receiving the MMR vaccine and their kids falling into autism shortly after.

When a doctor suggested that he may have found a link between autism and vaccines and published a paper in a journal, all hell broke loose. This doctor has been discredited, and anyone who suggests that he was on to something is vilified. Why was this the reaction of the medical community and governments? Why did they not look into the claims and spend money doing the research? Why can they not explain the sudden jump in autism rates?

Should parents be expected to trust government and vaccine companies? Why did they remove the ingredient Thermosal from most vaccines? If the ingredient was safe, why did they take it out? Does it make sense too give babies do many vaccines? With aluminum, formaldehyde, and other toxic ingredients?

There are many medical professionals who believe vaccines are damaging children. It may be a case of too much of a "good" thing.

Why does Dr. Oz not get his children vaccinated for the flu?

Anyone who bring up the subject is labeled a anti vaccer and said to be a nut.

I will show how the government, media, and medical profession are in the process of the biggest cover up in history, and how the truth about vaccines is being suppressed.


Hi a little introduction if you don't mind,

My name's Will, A Sixteen year old boy, living in the Austin Metropolis and I'd like to thank JakeLamotta for making this debate. At a young age I was diagnosed with ADHD and later on Asperger’s Syndrome to which none of the people in my family other than my mother believe. I am severely allergic to most of the tree-pollens. I grew up in a predominately Christian household later to become an agnostic gamer.

Now, onto what we came here for.



A mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people and in using language and abstract concepts.

Source: Google “Definition of autism;

Vaccine:any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunityagainst a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of thedisease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulateantibod--y production.


Brain Damage: injury or harm, congenital or acquired, to the tissues of the brainresulting from inadequate oxygen supply, trauma, or other cause.


It makes very little sense to link the causes of Severe or Minor cases of brain damage to Medical Vaccines nor does it make sense to link the causes of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) with vaccinations meant to combat disease.

C1: There is no link between Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and Medical Vaccinations

According to the CDC vaccine safety concerns page: “There is no connection between Autism and Medical Vaccinations.”1 To further this argument the same page says “Vaccine ingredients do not cause autism”1

Why would the CDC a government agency lie to its own people about the possible chance of a child contracting Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) or Minor to Severe Brain Damage? The answer is in the simplicity itself; they don’t. The CDC exists to protect the people and in order to do that they need to share their relative knowledge on the subject at hand. Contrary to popular belief the CDC isn’t part of some ridiculous agenda, I digress.

With utmost certainty I can also clarify why there is little if not absolutely no connection between ASD and Medical Vaccinations.


C2: Vaccine Studies prove the “Vaccines-Cause-Autism arguments to be false” and Autism as it Develops

In an article done by the Huffington Post expressing the findings of the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC) after multiple tests the CDC and WHO have both confirmed “There is no link to Autism Spectrum Disorder and Medical Vaccinations”

The following is taken from the Article:

“When examined in the light of Hill's other six criteria, the vaccines-cause-autism arguments still do not hold up

  • Consistency: Autism also occurs in unvaccinated children.
  • Specificity: Autism does not occur in every (MMR) vaccinated child.
  • Temporality: The development of autism is not related to the time of vaccination.
  • Biological gradient: The incidence of autism among vaccinated children does not increase with the number of vaccines received.
  • Coherence: Follow up studies show no significant elevation in blood mercury levels following vaccination.
  • Experiment: Most vaccinated children do not develop autism.”1

To further my argument I will go on to say that Autism is a Neurodevelopmental disorder, that is to say, Autism is a disorder that mentally affects one’s developmental process deterring a “Normal Life” if you will. The definition of Vaccine as stated above is known to be a medical process before a sickness to neutralize the viral agent that causes said sickness. As we are all aware of a Vaccine is comprised of many numerous ingredients in order to:

1: Preserve a Vaccine

2: Combat a known Viral Agent

I will delve further in the later rounds and express the effects of Vaccinations and how there is no relevant or significant data to prove that Autism and minor and/or severe cases of Brain Damage do not occur because of Vaccines.



SN: This Post is short since I didn’t have time to fully complete it and I hope the people reading this take that into consideration. I will respond to my opponents argument if there is one to respond to with a 8000 character response, and I look forward to continuing my debate with Pro and hope that this will be an entertaining and enticing debate.

Thank you all for dropping by.

Debate Round No. 1


A. History
In the 1960's an autistic child was diagnosed in 1 out of every 5,000 children. Today the number is 1 in 50. This is an epidemic that needs too be made priority in our society. Yet it does not seem like this problem is being taken seriously. There is no cure, and nobody knows what causes it. And parents and people who claim there is a link too vaccines are vilified. Why does the government and the media keep telling us what it is not causing autism?

During the past quarter century, the CDC and AAP increased the numbers of vaccinations doctors are told to give American children from 23 doses of 7 vaccines to 48 doses of 14 vaccines by age five. Although today almost all childhood vaccines contain only trace amounts of mercury or never contained mercury preservatives, such as polio, pneumococcal, hepatitis A and live virus MMR, chicken pox and rotavirus vaccines, parents around the nation continue to report that their children are regressing physically, mentally and emotionally following receipt of multiple vaccines. These parents report their children are becoming chronically ill and disabled, suffering with autism, learning disabilities, ADHD, asthma, diabetes, intestinal bowel disorders and other brain and immune system dysfunction.

How many more children will be hurt before government, industry and paediatricians open their eyes and see what too much vaccination has done to our children?

More than 3.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder. (Buescher et al., 2014)

Prevalence of autism in U.S. children increased by 119.4 percent from 2000 (1 in 150) to 2010 (1 in 68). (CDC, 2014) Autism is the fastest-growing developmental disability. (CDC, 2008)

Prevalence has increased by 6-15 percent each year from 2002 to 2010. (Based on biennial numbers from the CDC)

The theory of vaccines causing autism comes from a source that should be trusted, parents. It was not evil Dr. Wakefield, or a Lawyer looking for money. The theory was born because parents with autistic children had the same story. They did not conspire or plan too bring down big pharm. They simply wanted to know why their children who were developing normally before their MMR shot were now sick and autistic.

My opponent points too a CDC study that says there is no link between vaccines and autism.

Where have I heard that before? No link? Ah yes, the CDC told the public that there was no link between smoking cigarettes and cancer. They were backing an industry that made billions of dollars a year. Sound familiar? The Truth Behind the Tobacco Industry Cover-Up.-a019030080

It is funny how history repeats itself. Another whistle blower has surfaced.

"William W. Thompson, PhD, Senior Scientist with the CDC has stepped forward and admitted the 2004 paper entitled "Age at first measles-mumps-rubella vaccination in children with autism and school-matched control subjects: a population-based study in metropolitan Atlanta," which has been used repeatedly by the CDC to deny the MMR-autism connection, was a fraud."

"Dr. Thompson has admitted the 340% increase in boys receiving the MMR vaccine "on time," as opposed to delayed, was buried by himself, Dr. DeStefano, Dr. Bhasin, Dr. Yeargin-Allsopp, and Dr. Boyle.

Dr. Thompson first called and spoke with Dr. Brian Hooker, who then revealed the information to Dr. Andrew Wakefield and the Autism Media Channel."

The video link I have added tells the story of deception.

1 in 50 children are diagnosed with autism and the CDC is covering up evidence that shows the link that Dr. Wakefield had found.

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program was created when big pharm lobbied the government too create a program where parents could not sue them when vaccines damaged their children. The Pharmaceutical lobby gives more money to government than any other lobby group.

When a child is injured by vaccines, the family can not sue, they must go too the vaccine vourt to request compensation.
Over 2.5 billion dollars in compensation has been handed out by the program.

If vaccines were not damaging children, why would they be handing out over 2.5 billion in compensation?

In Italy, you can sue the vaccine companies. A recent ruling found that vaccines do cause autism and the family was awarded compensation.

In the USA people call you a nut for claiming a link. Doctors that have done honest research are pushed out of the system and lose their careers. But in Italy, vaccines cause autism.

Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism

Valentino Bocca was given an MMR shot in 2004, at the age of 15 months. According to his parents, the change in his behavior was immediate. That same night he refused to eat, and he developed diarrhea during the night. It quickly went downhill from there. Within days he was no longer able to put a spoon to his mouth, and he spent nights crying in pain. His parents immediately suspected the vaccination, but were told this was "impossible." Valentino progressively regressed, and received the diagnosis of autism a year later.

In the final analysis, the Italian Health Ministry disagreed with the initial conclusion of the pediatrician, conceding that the vaccine was at fault.

As a result, a court in Rimini, Italy recently awarded the Bocca family a 15-year annuity totaling 174,000 Euros (just under $220,000), plus reimbursement for court costs, ruling that Valentino "has been damaged by irreversible complications due to vaccination (prophylaxis trivalent MMR)i." According to a featured article in the UK newspaper, The Independentii, about 100 similar cases are now being examined by Italian lawyers, and more cases may be brought to court.

"Luca Ventaloro the family lawyer, said yesterday: "This is very significant for Britain which uses, and has used, an MMR vaccine with the same components as the one given to Valentino.

It is wrong for governments and their health authorities to exert strong pressure on parents to take children for the MMR jab while ignoring that this vaccine can cause autism and linked conditions." The number of autism cases has risen sharply since the 1970s, with one in 64 British children affected," The Independent reportsiii .

Why is US Media in Black-Out on this Story?

It's well worth mentioning that this story has yet to be addressed in the US media... The Daily Mail was the first paper in the UK to talk about it on June 15iv. The Independent was the second to print an article, on June 17. The Daily Mail was the most substantive of the two. Their version included the following statements:

"Judge Lucio Ardigo, awarding compensation to the family... said it was 'conclusively established' that Valentino had suffered from an 'autistic disorder associated with medium cognitive delay' and his illness, as Dr Barboni stated, was linked to receiving the jab. Lawyer Mr Ventaloro explained yesterday: 'This is very significant for Britain which uses, and has used, an MMR vaccine with the same components as the one given to Valentino. 'It is wrong for governments and their health authorities to exert strong pressure on parents to take children for the MMR jab while ignoring that this vaccine can cause autism and linked conditions.'

So we know that the CDC, the media, big pharm, the government, and the medical profession are lying to the public. 2.5 billion in compensation, Italian court rulings, CDC scientists blowing the whistle, and thousands of parents story's show us that vaccines cause autism.


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Debate Round No. 2


Great, debating against myself.


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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Death23 2 years ago
OK I figured out how to fix it.
Posted by Death23 2 years ago
Clicked wrong box on my vote. PMing admin to adjust.
Posted by footballchris561 2 years ago
"They don't give away vaccines for free?" Yes
"The pharmaceutical companies make billions of dollars every year?" Yes

"And you think that some Lawyers paying a doctor money too do research is a conflict of interest?"
If i bet someone millions of dollars that you would win this debate and than paid someone a few hundred thousand dollars to lose the debate on purpose, would that be a conflict of interest?

"Who do you think pays the scientists and doctors who approve the vaccines?"
Pharmaceutical companies pay them with a salary and they do it legally. Not lawyers under the table.

"A scam 2 make money?" It is a scam to get people to not die.

"Does that sound like a scam too make money without any responsibility for damages?"
No. it sounds like a parent that has to tell their children no because they are stupid.
Posted by JakeLamotta 2 years ago
They don't give away vaccines for free?? The pharmaceutical companies make billions of dollars every year? And you think that some Lawyers paying a doctor money too do research is a conflict of interest?? Who do you think pays the scientists and doctors who approve the vaccines? A scam 2 make money? It is illegal too sue a pharmaceutical company in the USA if a vaccine damages your child. The US government made it law. Does that sound like a scam too make money without any responsibility for damages? You will learn more in the debate. I have said too much.
Posted by footballchris561 2 years ago
The lawyers that were part of the MMR vaccine lawsuit paid Wakefield which he kept a secret. Why would lawyers be paying him? Could it be that this was all some scam to make money?

I don't know any companies that provide free vaccines.
Posted by JakeLamotta 2 years ago
So a doctor got paid for doing research?? Hmmm, you are right, that is odd. And the fact that the pharmaceutical companies provide the vaccines for free lends them a ton of credibility.
Posted by footballchris561 2 years ago
Thousands of parents with no medical experience and extremely subjective opinions.
drugs have long term affects.
Do you know what pesticides are? I certainly hope nobody got sprayed with pesticides.
None of them got divorced? hmm that's interesting.
This "story" is all you say it is, just a story. There have been numerous studies on Wakefield's article which have all shown no definitive correlation. The reason he is vilified he because he was paid nearly half a million dollars to lie about vaccines causing autism.
Posted by JakeLamotta 2 years ago
And I don't don't know how people like you can ignore the testimonies of thousands and thousands of parents who all have the same story? They didn't all use drugs the day their children became autistic. They didn't get sprayed with pesticides, or get divorced. They brought their child in for a vaccination. Could it be a combination of pollutants in our environment? Maybe. But their story's all have a common piece. Their children got sick and fell into autism right after they got vaccinated.
Posted by footballchris561 2 years ago
Since he decline of pirates the average global temperature has risen. How come the government isn't researching this?

Do you know how many other things could be causing this? The rise in drug use, increase in preservatives in food and other synthetic enhancers like using hormones on the animals we eat, pesticides, the lead problem not more than a half a century ago, or how about the societal problems like increase in divorce and domestic problems that affect children growing up. Take your pick of possible explanations. I don't know why you people refuse to believe it is anything but vaccines causing it.
Posted by Unitomic 2 years ago
and now we play the waiting game.
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