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Vangelis is better than Hans Zimmer.

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Started: 8/5/2015 Category: Arts
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Evangelos Odysseas Papathanassiou (better known as Vangelis) is a Greek musical composer known for his works in movies like Chariots of Fire and Blade Runner. Hans Zimmer is also a musical composer, but from Germany. His works include the soundtracks to The Lion King, the Dark Knight Trilogy, Interstellar, and more. I will be supporting the opinion that Vangelis is better than Hans Zimmer, but it (of course) is debatable.


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Debate Round No. 1


Side note: I only put in two rounds just for ease of completion, or in other words, being lazy. Therefore several aspects of debating, like countering arguments and rebuttals, are not really going to go into play. Now, get on with it!
____Vangelis is well known for his musical style, for he is his own orchestra. Every composition of his is, for the most part, played by himself. Besides vocals. Other people do vocals. But the vibrant synth noises in Chariots of Fire as well as the dreamy droll of an electric organ in Blade Runner is all him. No violins cranking out soothing noises in any of it. Just a Yamaha CS-80 and a Zyklus MIDI Performance System. So original.
____Often critiqued negatively for being so repetitive in his music, Vangelis compositions still sound great. Go ahead and listen to "To the Unknown Man". Repetitive, but kick-@$$. Same with "Hymne".
____Vangelis also has been making music a decade longer than Hans Zimmer. I know, it's a cheap shot to factor in age, but oh well. Sue me.
____Hans Zimmer's compositions for The Pirates of the Caribbean Trilogy (oh wait, they also made that bad mermaid one) sounds like Gladiator. But I guess one can say the same of Vangelis's "Heaven and Hell Part 3" and the "Chariots of Fire Theme".
____Vangelis is a better father than Hans Zimmer. Ha. Ha ha ha ah he. Haaa haaAA HEAAAH HEAAA! HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAA!!!!!
____I'm done. Have a nice day.


Hans Zimmer is a particularly original composer, notable for his compositions of the Lion King, Inception, Gladiator, and many others. He has won, and been nominated for quite a few awards. Based on this factor alone, Zimmer is superior to Vangelis; he has won 109 awards and been nominated for 159 [1]. Vangelis has only won 6, and been nominated for 6 [2]. If you look to nothing else in this debate, this should be the greatest indicator of who is better at composing.

Another talent that Zimmer has is one of diversity. He is capable of composing scores that sound completely different from one another, think of Interstellar, Inception, The Dark Knight, The Lion King, and many others. Probably the most notably unique of these would be Interstellar, with it's organ swells and ethereal themes. Then take a look at Inception, whose soundtrack "Time" has been re-used thousands of times by other people. Also, look to his unique use of the foghorn in this soundtrack, which has become a staple in trailers. Vangelis is the exact opposite of this. While his soundtracks are certainly unique, most sound very, very similar. Additionally, he has composed almost nothing of note in recent years, and the style of his compositions have long been discarded as outdated.

An enjoyable quality of Hans Zimmer's is how close he tries to be to what the movie is expressing. When composing music for "The Last Samurai" he attempted to be as close to actual Japanese music as possible, and when he went to Japan to get some advice they were impressed with the depth of his knowledge [3]. Hans Zimmer always tries to find a connection with the source material and it comes out in his work. Vangelis makes absolutely zero effort to do this, and as I think I mentioned earlier nearly EVERYTHING HE COMPOSES SOUNDS THE SAME.

Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by LostintheEcho1498 1 year ago
Hmm real tempted to accept. Zimmer has made some of the best scores ever. I don't know enough about Vangelis though.
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