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MASTERY
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Jevinigh
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Vdeo gaming a day is good for you

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Started: 3/14/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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MASTERY

Con

Welcome to the debate.
First round is for defining and last round is for conclusions. I define video gaming as "a game played by electronically manipulating images produced by a computer program on a monitor or other display". I define "good" as any benefit, need not be health.

Thank you.
Jevinigh

Pro

Rather than focusing exclusively on Video gaming, I will broaden this a bit to include none athletic games in general, be them using Analog or Digital technologies. For the purposes of the Argument I am going to ignore "athletic" gaming leagues and instead reference the common understanding of what a none athletic game is exemplified: Connect 4, Chess,Checkers and other games played on a board or other physical media that requires physical manipulation of pieces in some fashion.

- The cause for this expansion is to establish consistency in reference for generations which grew up with mostly analog technology in their entertainment.

I propose that for any future need to define a term, Merriam Webster Dictionary ( found here: http://www.merriam-webster.com... ) Be the common resource.
Debate Round No. 1
MASTERY

Con

Thank you for accepting the debate.
Connect 4, Chess, Checkers etc. all let the players strive for one single goal: winning. In some cases players take this too serious, and start taking unnecessary action. An example is a person murdering someone over a chess move. (1) These games all can have these serious consequences, which is worse than not playing the game itself

(1) http://goo.gl...

Thank you.
Jevinigh

Pro


In the following study, a Group was asked to play mario 64 for 20 minutes a day.

http://www.kurzweilai.net...;

The result: Increased grey matter in the section fo the brain that controlls moto functions and navigational ability over the control group which was not allowed to play video games in the same time frame.

The following study was funded by the United States airforce and conducted by Katholieke Univestiy in Belgium.
http://www.plosone.org...

The result: Real Time Strategy games (RTS) are shown to improve neural placity related to stratgic thinking.


These studies and many more including this one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

Which shows even very small amount of gaming is capable of staving off metnal detteoriation associated with aging. And this study: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...; Showing improvement in eyesight.

The abstract conclusion is that these games are akin to mental excercises, the mnd responds to stimulation in a way that is not dissimiliar from stimulating muscles. http://www.wikihow.com...; <- A neat article if aonly slightly anecdotal.
Debate Round No. 2
MASTERY

Con

Video games damage people's eyes and nerves. Video games are also designed to hook people in - so they play and play until their are nearly blind. Being blind is extremely detrimental to the brain - even if "Increased grey matter in the section for the brain that controls moto functions and navigational ability over the control group which was not allowed to play video games in the same time frame" happens. That increased moto functions and navigational ability is useless without your eyes.

My opponent has not rebutted the fact that some people can take RTS too seriously. Would you lose 100 times at a game and feel it benefited you? Of course not.

Thank you.
Jevinigh

Pro



Addressing the claim that is damaged eyesight:

(1) Do you have any sources, resources that you would like to use to support this claim?

Here is an article on the topic:
http://gamerant.com...


Addressing the claim that games promote violence:

The example you used of a chess gamer being killed over a chess move falls under the fallacy of appealing to extremes. http://www.logicallyfallacious.com.... Using an extreme and isolated incident to reflect a larger issue. I don't know about you but I don't see 7 o'clock editions of the news appealing to stop the chess violence. Same thing goes for video games as a whole, despite years of study there remains only a weak case to prove causation relationship between even violent video games and violence as a whole.
Debate Round No. 3
MASTERY

Con

REBUTTAL
(1) Do you have any sources, resources that you would like to use to support this claim?

Here is an article on the topic:
http://gamerant.com......

Here is an article on eyestrain. http://www.pasadenaeye.com...

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The example you used of a chess gamer being killed over a chess move falls under the fallacy of appealing to extremes.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com.......

Yes, that is an extreme but many, many more smaller case incidents happen. Many people gain temporary anger and sadness over a lost game. That is quite normal, and is people's natural response.

Using an extreme and isolated incident to reflect a larger issue. I don't know about you but I don't see 7 o'clock editions of the news appealing to stop the chess violence. Same thing goes for video games as a whole, despite years of study there remains only a weak case to prove causation relationship between even violent video games and violence as a whole.

http://katiecouric.com...
There is some link between video game violence and real violence. Thus violent video gaming causes real violence.

ARGUMENT
Excessive playing of video games causes muscle stiffness especially in the shoulders.

"Both muscle spasms and stiffness can be painful, though they are not always. You might feel the dull ache of stiff muscles, or a sharper pain if they spasm.

Muscle problems can also interfere with good posture, causing back pain, for example." Muscle pain also causes many other interferences in life, such as inability to even stand or sit.

http://www.mssociety.org.uk...
http://www.healthcentral.com...

Jevinigh

Pro



I will be making this brief as I am really not feeling well.

The original contention of Con was that Playing video games " Every day" was bad for you. In an earlier round I established that this is not the case, peer reviewed studies show it serves to increase stimulation in the brain. Con made a point about bad posture and drew an abstraction, Because many gamers have poor posture Con summarized that games cause bad posture. This is a logical fallacy, Correlation does not equal causation. Bad posture is bad for you regardless of what your doing-while you do it with bad posture.

Next he countered again about video games causing violent tendencies but the article he posted only glossed over it and than stated matter of factually. It is true, Certain types of violence in games can promote violence in the real world but this does not extent to all games or all types of violence in video games, not all or even most video games are considered violent.

In short, Cons argument at best proves that video games can be abused and over done but so can hamburgers... There is proven benefits that video games can benefit a person who plays games daily.
Debate Round No. 4
MASTERY

Con

REBUTTAL

The original contention of Con was that Playing video games " Every day" was bad for you. In an earlier round I established that this is not the case, peer reviewed studies show it serves to increase stimulation in the brain. Con made a point about bad posture and drew an abstraction, Because many gamers have poor posture Con summarized that games cause bad posture. This is a logical fallacy, Correlation does not equal causation. Bad posture is bad for you regardless of what your doing-while you do it with bad posture.

I did not make an assumption between video gaming and bad posture. The link is here: http://www.healthcentral.com.... And, if playing video games itself is bad enough, playing it EVERY DAY is certainly worse.

Next he countered again about video games causing violent tendencies but the article he posted only glossed over it and than stated matter of factually. It is true, Certain types of violence in games can promote violence in the real world but this does not extent to all games or all types of violence in video games, not all or even most video games are considered violent.

In short, Cons argument at best proves that video games can be abused and over done but so can hamburgers... There are proven benefits that video games can benefit a person who plays games daily.

Even if violent video gaming does not correlate to real violence COMPLETELY, there is still a risk, and that risk increases exponentially as days go by. So, video gaming every day is certainly NOT good for you.
CONCLUSION
In conclusion video gaming every day is not good because of the eye strain it provides. Since video games hook people in, the effects are multiplied. Video games also sometimes causes real violence and muscle stiffness which is very interfering with life. Overall, video gaming is certainly NOT good for you.

I would like to thank my opponent for her time and arguments.

Thank you.
Jevinigh

Pro


I have provided adequate resource to counter that eye strain is not a major concern in those who play video games, watch tv and etc in a responsible way. Con's argument has not established solid links that video games represent a cause and effect relationship with violence behavior or that damage to the eyes is a direct result of gaming. But rather that poor conditions while playing video games may result in damage, this is not sufficient to establish the basic premise that the act of playing video games is unhealthy.

In contrast I have provided resources establishing benefits of gaming both mentally in all ages and physically in the elderly and disabled who benefit amazingly from playing games on platforms such as the Wii. It is there for Pro's conclusion that there is a benefit to be gained from the daily consumption of video games. Though I have not touched on it during this debate, additional resources are available regarding educational games and their benefits.


Thank you for the debate and have a good day.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Aleksandr 3 years ago
Aleksandr
Video games is one of the things that keep me in good sanity.
Posted by MASTERY 3 years ago
MASTERY
Clarification: Video gaming every day is good for you.
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