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Vegeta is better than Goku

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Started: 2/26/2008 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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cheekyhobo

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I saw a debate about Vegeta and Goku and couldn't resist starting this one. When I say better I do not refer to stronger. I believe Vegeta is an all-around better character. He makes the Dragon Ball Z/GT series what they are. There always has to be the antagonist that goes covert. Vegeta is like Wolverine in X-Men or Zero in Megaman. He is the driving force that actually makes the series interesting. He is (pardon my French. Hmmm... What do French people say when they cuss? Anyhow.) bad ashs (can't swear on this site). No one stands in his way and if they do, *bang* they're gone or there is a really awesome fight scene. That is the basic reason why Vegeta rivals Goku, because Goku never does anything wrong and is a goody-goody-two-shoes. I'm not saying Vegeta DOESN'T have two shoes, but you get what I am saying. Anyone who accepts this debate will not have to prove anything, just write random things about Goku and Vegeta and possibly about cheese. So have fun, and someday I WILL find you and have a fight to remember.
massvideogamer

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You are wrong my friend, Goku is way better than Vegeta. For one thing he is stronger. Goku is stronger than Vegeta for practically the entire show, just a little bit at the beginning. Ever since Vegeta lost on Earth against Goku and Co. Vegeta had been striving to be stronger than Goku, but never succeeded. No matter how much Vegeta improved, Goku was always 2 steps ahead of him. On Namek, Vegeta had gotten stronger by fighting alot, but Goku got alot more stronger because he actually trained. Vegeta just expects to be the strongest because he is the Saiyan Prince, but Goku is constantly working hard to get stronger. Even when Vegeta works hard to get stronger, it is not enough to surpass Goku. When Vegeta trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, he thougt he was the strongest after that, but once Goku trained in it, he quickly became stronger than Vegeta again.

Vegeta has too much pride. He thinks that because he is the Prince of All Saiyans that he should be the strongest of all Saiyans. This pride has prevented him to become the strongest. Goku doesn't care to be the strongest, he just cares to be the strongest HE CAN BE. His personality allowed him to never give up. He was innately more powerful. He cared about people and had reasons to fight for what he fought for. He never cared about being the best, he was the best because he HAD to be. That's why he was better than Vegeta, because of who he was. Goku never gave up, he always tried and tried again. Vegeta on the other hand was a baby, he sees someone stronger than him, and he pulls a fit. He either just gives up, or goes insane and tries to kill them, but since he goes insane, he is blinded and is weakened even further. For example, in the DBZ Movie with Broly (the first one) as soon as Vegeta learns that Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan, he just freezes and doesn't do anything because he is afraid. Goku on the other hand didn't give up there, he kept on trying, even though his foe was much stronger than he. He is because he kept trying that he was able to defeat Broly. Maybe if Vegeta wasn't such a wimp he could've beaten Broly.

Vegeta has too many anger issues. He is constantly upset because Goku is stronger than him. He even submits himself to Bobidi's evil to become stronger.

Some people say that Vegeta is smarter than Goku, but this is not true. If Vegeta was so smart, why wasn't he ever able to go Super Saiyan 3 like Goku was? Why wasn't he ever able to go Super Saiyan 4 without the help of a machine.

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Posted by superheroxd40 8 months ago
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I myself agree on Goku being the strongest knowing he had IT and other powerful moves makes him very deadly he has gone higher than Vegeta each time Vegeta has gone up to catch him. Don't get me wrong I like Vegeta as well for his pride and never wanted to fail and pushing himself forward but he over thinks too much an thats what brings him down. Goku is always training with different masters while Vegeta thinks training by himself will make him stronger which he will get only 10% gain from it, while Goku training with king Kai an other masters he had become really strong for an explain look how strong Vegeta got after training with Whis he trained with someone and got super strong but of course Goku has always been ahead either way.
Posted by TheSerpent 4 years ago
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I made an account JUST for this debate. First and foremost VEGETA IS FAR FAR FAR FAR more powerful than goku is! Anyone who ever goes past the early Fieza saga knows NOTHING about DBZ and most likely only watched the crappy funimation dubs. These two links show concrete proof that Vegeta is, and always will be, stronger than goku ever possibly could be.

This video shows a child vegeta destroyed sibamen easier than any of the Z fighters when they fought sibamen. Remember, that by the time goku is ressurected from death the first time he was near-equal to piccolo in strength. If piccolo has to make a drawn out effort to dispatch one sibamen, kid vegeta destroys 5 without showing any real effort. He then goes on the "hardest mission" frieza has to give him. While we don't know what that is, we do know that if frieza, the ruler of the UINVERSE, is giving someone the "hardest mission" it's easy to deduce that this mission would be on a level close to him. We then see kid vegeta surrounding by corpses, presumably the ones from the mission he was sent on, without even a scratch on him. In a single scene we see that as a child he has more power than all the Z fighters combined by the time vegeta and goku fight.

In this following video Vegeta destroys an entire planet without "charging up" as others have so eloquently put it. Destroying a planet is thought to be the "high point" in power in DBZ, and too date the only people I can recall who destroyed a planet as easily as Vegeta was Frieza(I remember seeing majin buu destroy a couple of planets, but DBZ stopped after the Frieza saga anyway).

These two video's alone are enough to prove Vegeta's eternal superiority over Goku. The only reason why people get confused is because their is an INTENTIONAL conspiracy surrounding Vegeta(and really all "evil" or authoritative Japanese characters) that they lose in humiliating and illog
Posted by cybertronic 9 years ago
cybertronic
guko is better than vegeta, due to inacurate thinking of vegeta...
Posted by kenicks 9 years ago
kenicks
Vegeta suffers from anger management, and that can, in the end, do him in. Never let emotion get the best of you.
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