The Instigator
MrMicrochip
Con (against)
Losing
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The Contender
imabench
Pro (for)
Winning
16 Points

Video Game Violence Makes Real Violence Happen

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imabench
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/11/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Votes (4)

 

MrMicrochip

Con

I am strictly AGAINST the idea that video games influence violence in real life. It just make no sense whatsoever. To say that all violence is caused by video games is a complete and utter outrage.

Violence has happened ALL throughout history, from the beginning of time (Cane killing Able). I'm sure John Wilkes Booth had a few rounds of Halo before killing Lincoln! It's just stupid. There's my opinion, now fire away
imabench

Pro

Video games causes violence to happen all the time, and to claim that it doesnt is balderdash!

When was the last time you ever yelled out five expletives in a row after getting killed in a game?
When was the last time you rage quitted from a game cause you were losing?
When was the last time you chucked the controller or the remote?
When was the last time you ever admitted that you died because the opponent was better and not because of some 'bullsh*t'?
When was the last time you ever got ticked off because the game got slow laggy?

Video games cause violence all the time! Not murder and actual killings and stuff like that but they still cause violence.
Debate Round No. 1
MrMicrochip

Con

The things you have listed are simple, causal things that the first time/not very good gamer would do. Once you actually get good at the games, there's no need to rage like that. Gamers (actual gamers) such as myself, play the games for a fun, challenging experience against other gamers. Yes, lag gets annoying, but to throw your controller, for any reason during a game, means that the player themselves have complete aggression and anger issues that should be checked out. And please read the title of the debate, I meant that seeing people get shot in video games caused terrible events such as school shootings and other events.
imabench

Pro

"The things you have listed are simple, causal things that the first time/not very good gamer would do."

And how many first time/not very good gamers do you think are out there? There are MILLIONS of them.



"Yes, lag gets annoying, but to throw your controller, for any reason during a game, means that the player themselves have complete aggression and anger issues that should be checked out."


Oh so when video games is directly responsibe for causing violence then suddenly everyone has a mental illness and the video game wasnt at any fault? Thats like saying that sticking your d*ck in a pencil sharpener is the fault of the pencil sharpener for looking too much like a vagina when im hammered drunk at 3 AM.



"And please read the title of the debate"


I did, it clearly states that 'Video game violence makes real violence happen"....



"I meant that seeing people get shot in video games caused terrible events such as school shootings and other events."

Changing the meaning of the resolution just because youre losing is very poor conduct con. You seem to be behaving violently for something that isnt happening in real life, much like how gamers react negatively when they are losing video games.

Debate Round No. 2
MrMicrochip

Con

"Oh so when video games is directly responsibe for causing violence then suddenly everyone has a mental illness and the video game wasnt at any fault? Thats like saying that sticking your d*ck in a pencil sharpener is the fault of the pencil sharpener for looking too much like a vagina when im hammered drunk at 3 AM. "

You basically disproved yourself here. It is NOT the fault of the pencil sharpener, as it's not the fault of the video game.


"Changing the meaning of the resolution just because youre losing is very poor conduct con. You seem to be behaving violently for something that isnt happening in real life, much like how gamers react negatively when they are losing video games. "

You seem to be full of yourself to automatically assume that you're winning. I'd fix my grammar and realize that I disproved myself before I would jump in to say I'm winning.

That was also the topic of the debate in the first place, actual violence occuring from video games. Deaths, wounds, murder, mass shootings. You've changed the topic to over all stress from video games, and feeling bad because you've lost.


You could go out and start to bash any activity you'd like, and state that it was the cause for violence.
This is like the matter of gun violence. The gun itself does not go and kill people. The gun must be used by a mentally ill person who can't control themselves. Seeing violence in video games is just like seeing violence in movie. But movie violence is much worse.

People seem to overreact for most activities, ESPECIALLY sports. (See the Brazilian soccer incident that happened recently. I'm sure they played some Gears of War before beheading and quartering the coach, don't you think?) Playing video games is a fun way to pass time, competitively. Seeing a person get shot in Call of Duty: Black Ops II is no means whatsoever to kill anybody. If this were true, 7.5 million+ gamers would be going on killing rampages. However, this isn't the case. It turns out that it didn't happen! Why you ask? Because those 7.5 million people are mentally stable.

Also, since you're talking about less violent "violence" (throwing the controller, cussing, etc...), I believe we cuss under our breath and get frustrated at numerous things throughout life. Stepping in gum, losing a job, not assembling a product correctly, etc...
imabench

Pro

"You basically disproved yourself here. It is NOT the fault of the pencil sharpener, as it's not the fault of the video game."

No dingleberry you completely missed the point: Video games directly cause people to act violent all the time but pencil sharpener penis decapitation barely happens at all. If both of them were merely objects then why does one lead to an absolute sh*t ton of rage among users while the other has no effect at all? The only answer is that video games do cause violence to happen, if it was just people then every object ever would cause violence, except they dont.



"You seem to be full of yourself to automatically assume that you're winning."

Well you havent given a single reasonable counter argument to any of my points so its pretty clear to see that im winning. The only thing youre actually doing is try to twist the resolution of the debate to an absurd degree just to get yourself more leeway....



"That was also the topic of the debate in the first place, actual violence occuring from video games. Deaths, wounds, murder, mass shootings. You've changed the topic to over all stress from video games, and feeling bad because you've lost."

Tell me then pencil-d*ck, where in the first or second round did you say that the resolution applied only to deaths, wounds, murders, and mass shootings? The answer is that you didnt. Youre cutting off 90% of the meaning of violence to include only really, really violent stuff while completely ignoring the fact that uncontrollable cursing, chucking the controller, etc also qualifies as 'violence'



"Seeing violence in video games is just like seeing violence in movie. But movie violence is much worse. "

Im sorry, how many movies have you seen that have caused you to start cursing uncontrollably or to throw objects violently across the room? Movies cause far less violence then video games, thats just simple observation.



"It turns out that it didn't happen! Why you ask? Because those 7.5 million people are mentally stable. "

First off, nobody who plays Black Ops II is mentally stable. All of them are 12 year old boys hitting puberty like a wall, they are most certainly not stable.

Secondly, you just admitted that people overreact to all kinds of stuff such as sports yet you continue to deny that video games can be a trigger for causing people to act violent. Hypocrite much?



"I believe we cuss under our breath and get frustrated at numerous things throughout life. Stepping in gum, losing a job, not assembling a product correctly, etc..."

I dont know about your mental stability, but ive never stepped in bubble gum and then as a response yelled out "F*CKING SH*T THESE F*CKING HACKERS CAN SUCK MY HAIRY D*CK. SUCH BULLSH*T" like thousands of teenagers are yelling right now after they just died in Black Ops II.....

Stepping in gum is not the equivalent of dying in a video game since the reaction to both varies immensly.


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Point is, video games do cause violence in the from of rants of cursing, chucking the game controller or remote against the TV or wall, etc etc.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Zaradi 4 years ago
Zaradi
Hey they're called Wii nunCHUCKS for a reason. You get so fed up with having to use them that you chuck them across the room at something or someone. Plastic hurts too, man. Plastic hurts too.
Posted by ArgentStorm 4 years ago
ArgentStorm
Throwing a controller is, by definition, violent.
Posted by MrMicrochip 4 years ago
MrMicrochip
Most people would agree that throwing a controller isn't violent, and killing people is -_-
Posted by MrMicrochip 4 years ago
MrMicrochip
Most people would agree that throwing a controller isn't violent, and killing people is -_-
Posted by Zaradi 4 years ago
Zaradi
Microchip, let this be a lesson is resolution clarity for you. If you see imabench accepting your debate, you probably weren't clear enough on what you wanted to debate.
Posted by donald.keller 4 years ago
donald.keller
"Seeing violence in video games is just like seeing violence in movie. But movie violence is much worse. "

I just wanted to say that the only difference between Game Violence and Movie Violence, is whose hand's on the controller, and whose brain is telling the guy to do it.

I see Van Diesel blow some guy up, than I just saw Van Diesel blow someone up... My guy on COD blows someone up, it was me that told him to, and therefore it was me and my mind that made it happen.
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO, simply because CON defined his terms poorly and PRO took advantage.
Vote Placed by Donjaundebater1212 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro, you lost after the second round.the only reason it wasnt after the first is because I was hoping you would have made some better arguments.
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO instructs readers and debaters on the importance of definitions in the game of debate. Allowed to dictate the terms of this contest, (video games create very small, but real acts of violence) PRO forces a semantic vote in his favor for arguments. I had expected CON to hold to the R1 paremeters (it is outrageous to claim that ALL violence is related to video games) which would have guaranteed a win. Permitting PRO to drift the debate away from this ironclad argument denied CON a big-game hunting trophy here.
Vote Placed by MassiveDump 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Semantics - 1, Flawed Resolutions - 0.