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BladeXFire
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Hylian_3000
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Hylian_3000
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/5/2015 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BladeXFire

Con

You can choose what we argue and must argue the first round not the last, in reality, it's you're rules applying here.
Hylian_3000

Pro

Um... Ok.

The topic will be; Should Video Games be considered a normal media?

Let me explain. Have you ever noticed that if you play video games in public, it's a bit embarrassing. However listening to music or reading a book in public is totally ok? I believe this is because video games are not considered a normal media. This is one of the reasons why games are looked down upon and is subject to controversy. I will be arguing for video games to become considered a normal media, my opponent will argue against it.
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1. The Gamer Stereotype
I believe that one of the reasons why video games are not considered a normal media is because of the stereotype gamers get. When you play video games in public, why do you feel embarrassed? You probably are thinking about what others are thinking of you. You probably think they think you look like this: https://gamerstereotype.files.wordpress.com...
This is the gamer stereotype, and it is terribly inaccurate.
According to this article [1] when someone calls themselves a gamer, they are just classifying themselves with others who have the same likes as them. They aren't like the stereotype.
Plus, with the booming mobile market, there are more people who are getting into video games. Ask yourself this, how many if these people are actually like the stereotype? Not a lot.

2. Similarities
What defines media? First, we need to list some types of media (not to be confused with things like the news). Some types of media are books, TV, and music. What similarities make them classified as media? One similarity I see is that they are all past-times and are used for entertainment. Video games can be used as past-times or entertainment. This seems to be the only similarity that these forms of media share, and video games share it as well.

3. Popularity
There is a huge gaming community out there. According to source [2], the population of gamers in the US in 2009 was about 170 million. The current population of the US, according to the United States Census Bureau, is about 316.1 million. Doing the math shows that the percentage of gamers to the total US population is about 47%. That's almost HALF the US population, so why not let them enjoy their games without being judged.

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Sources:
[1]: https://gamerstereotype.wordpress.com...
[2]: http://www.gamespot.com...
Debate Round No. 1
BladeXFire

Con

This is ran all off from memory so don't think all of my information is accurate 100%. I may not make it to round 3, we're losing internet. Sorry Hyrulian. But to the point now...

Video games shouldn't be considered normal media as for how easy it is too show. Let's take the PSP for example, one of my favorite stealth games is on there, Manhunt 2. If you have ever seen it, the game is very violent and bloody, not for kids. If a kid saw it and told her/his mother about it she might not be that impressed.

Yes songs, movies, and books show this but they have to have them listening, not hearing. They have played "Take it off" By Ke$ha or something like that at a few school dances and they don't really get what it means because they don't listen to it. As such doesn't show them what they mean, but you don't need to think to know what a video game means, since it shows it to you.

It won't become apart of normal media because of that, and because of how some people re-act to it very differently. If you're playing a jump scare game such as "Slender Man" and you get jump scared and scream out loud, you're going to get some funny looks. With the stereotype horror gamer (Set by Pewdiepie, seems like) they will scream.

Also, it seems people will get angry at video games, a popular example being Flappy Bird. Everyone feels the rage with it, and tend to get a little... crazy. Most gamers my dad has met, not being a gamer himself, are the ones that get angry and take it out on the controller. Going with that, that will make gamers look mentally incapable to control there anger. Thus making Video Games different type of media.

For the last point, we can't forget things are remembered or thought of by the bad. When the Sandy Hook shooting happened, the news blamed Video gaming for it. The game that drove him to do it was Video games. But people don't realize it's not the games fault, it's the parents because they failed to teach them reality from fantasy.

Could it be part of normal media? One day, but it won't happen anytime soon.
Hylian_3000

Pro

Rebuttals
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Con states that one of the reasons why video games shouldn't be considered a normal media is because of how it conveys meanings of the product. He says that if a kid saw a game with blood and gore in it, his mother would not me impressed. Wouldn't that also be the case if a kid told his mom about an R rated movie with blood, gore, and swearing? Yes, yes it would.

Con also states that it can't be considered a normal media because you don't need to "listen" to see what's going on. Well what about TV. Again, if you saw a guy stabbing someone else with blood everywhere in TV, the first reaction would probably be "This is a violent TV show", even without "listening" to it

Another argument Con has is that gamers attitude changes while playing video games, therefore it shouldn't be considered a normal media. Well, it just means that they are immersed. Have you ever yelped back in fear after being jump scared in a movie? Probably.

Con also states that gamers have a tough time controlling their rage. This just means that they are having a tough time beating a boss, or solving a puzzle, or just got sniped over and over again. Also, if you kept failing a task in real life, would you get frustrated? Yes, you probably would. So gamers don't have issues controlling their anger

The shooter of Sandy Hook was in poor mental condition. As referenced in source [1], the shooter had sensory-integration disorder, and Asperger Syndrome. Most gamers who don't have a mental illness can tell what's right from what's wrong, and they won't go and shoot some kids due to video games.
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Sources:
[1]: http://en.m.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 2
BladeXFire

Con

BladeXFire forfeited this round.
Hylian_3000

Pro

Points extended
Debate Round No. 3
BladeXFire

Con

BladeXFire forfeited this round.
Hylian_3000

Pro

All points extended
Debate Round No. 4
BladeXFire

Con

BladeXFire forfeited this round.
Hylian_3000

Pro

My opponent has forfeited, vote Pro!
Debate Round No. 5
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lannan13
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