The Instigator
tvann5m
Pro (for)
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The Contender
Debatenewbie14
Con (against)
Losing
14 Points

Video games are benifical to people of every age.

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tvann5m
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/6/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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tvann5m

Pro

Excuse me if I don't follow procedure this is my first debate and I am new to debate.org.*
Video games are very helpful to people's every day life.
It helps kids with there reaction times, eye hand coordination, and problem solving skills. Many games even help with kids social skills such as W.O.W(World of Warcraft) A M.M.O(Massively Online Multiplayer). There are many studies showing this. I'll site if asked.
I'm looking forward to this debate, being it my first.
Debatenewbie14

Con

First I will go over their case and then my own.
He states that it helps with hand eye-coordination and also problem solving. First of all you can do Physical activities and gain more eye-coordination, for this would also help with their health. Here are some examples of how it helps people, promote healthy blood sugar levels to prevent or control diabetes
promote bone density to protect against osteoporosis
reduce the overall risk of cancer
increase levels of HDL or "good" cholesterol -reducing the risk of developing heart disease
lower high blood pressure-reducing the risk of developing heart disease. Which one would you choose to do be healthily, have good hand eye coordination, and be able to do problem solving, or be lazy and have the negative effects of doing physical activities but still have the hand eye coordination? Saying no to thins will not only help you but keep you fit and happy. Also he gave no warrants or proof of this statement so you can't look to his arguments.
And what he said about them becoming more social once again he proves no way that it does. So once again you can't look to him.
My case

1st agreement- Practicing violent acts may contribute more to aggressive behavior than passive television watching. Studies do find a relationship between violent television watching and behavior since studies have should that it does cause violent acts then saying that it is ok then we are saying it is ok to do these things

2nd agreement
Over-dependence on video games could foster social isolation, as they are often played alone. Playing video games cases these people to become less social since all most all of them are non-social. There for more people will be less social for they will only depend on having friends in a video games and not in really life.

3rd agreement
In many violent games, players must become more violent to win. In "1st person" violent video games the player may be more affected because he or she controls the game and experiences the action through the eyes of his or her character
for these reasons you can't agree that video games can't be helpful.
thank you

also thanks for the debate it was found to research
Debate Round No. 1
tvann5m

Pro

First of all i would like to thank my opponent for accepting this debate.

"First of all you can do Physical activities and gain more eye-coordination, for this would also help with their health. Here are some examples of how it helps people, promote healthy blood sugar levels to prevent or control diabetes
promote bone density to protect against osteoporosis."
I assume you are talking about "physical activities". yes they do help and benefit all of these, I'm not suggesting you should completely replace video games with physical activity. Many video games help with this also, not all games involve you just being "lazy" as you put it. Such as the Wii fit.
http://www.acefitness.org...

Games help very much so with social behavior. In many games you have to talk and communicate with other people. Many games even though they are 1 player you still interact with other AI players. Such as fallout 3 where your decisions effect the whole game. If you make choices where the one of the AI character's hate you then you won't be able to get anything from them in the future.
Then there is xbox live which is getting more popular by the minute. Just in case you don't no what xbox live is."(I assume you know what an xbox is)It is where the xbox 360 is connected to the internet and through that you can communicate with people from all over the world. You can play games with other people and all sorts of other things. You can be playing 1 player games and still be in a party(a group of people) with other people and talk to them.
The xbox isn't the only console that offers this service the PlayStation 3 and the wii also do there not quite as good in my personal opinion but you can still play with other REAL people. This can lead to people playing with people from there school that they never would have talked to before. I've had this experience myself there are a few preps that i am OK with now at my school because of xbox live.
http://seriousgamessource.com...

Yes if course there are a few exceptions to everything, but for the most part kids do not get angry playing video games. On the contrary they actually help calm angry kids. What i do when i have a bad day at school and i just want to hit some one in the face i go home and play a first person shooter. It relives stress and stops me from going into school with guns and shooting everyone. Video games don't make you angry with the few exceptions that there are to everything.
http://www.neoseeker.com...-/

i Have sited sources to back up each one of my arguments and have countered yours.
i believe it is your move next.
But how can you trust my opponent no sources and no research did he put into this. I believe he has done nothing but heard vague fake news stories. Like the Columbine for instance. The news reported that they learned to use guns from doom. When in actuality they shot guns at a gun range frequently. This is just one way they have twisted stories to try to make video games look bad there are many more.
Debatenewbie14

Con

ok I would like to state about the first agurment that he made agianst my case. He says "Many video games help with this also, not all games involve you just being "lazy" as you put it." then he states about Wii fit that that is a game that helps with physical actives. That is one game one game that the gaming industry has come out becuase 1/3 kids are becoming obese, when they say that them being like this is from eating and play Videogames. So if these video games cause more bad then good then why are we will to put our kids at this risk. And if these people that i have given examples have given you and there are many more people say that more people are getting fat with videogames how can this help with you hand-eye cooridation? I don't believe it can.
static.dpsk12.org/gems/dsa/Videogamesleadtodownfallofhumanity.doc
www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-michael-j-breus/sleepless-kids-become-fat_b_143282.html

Onto his second agrument he just keeps keeps stating all these games that he says are social well first of all you don't know who those people are you have a username. And second of all most of the games that he states are violent as i stated in my first agrument i state that violent games lead to more violence so that goes with my case. And third if you don't know who these people are how can you trust them it is just like being on the internet and you are in a chat room you don't know who is on the other side it could be you friend or it could be some werid person that could hurt you i am not saying that every person on there is going to be like that but you can never really know who is really on ther other side.

and his third statment he didn't touch my agruments so those will go thru and he can't bring them back up.

And onto my case
he states that it make kids happy or calm them down when they play these voilent video games. Well here are some websites that prove my point
mentalhealth.about.com/cs/familyresources/a/vidgameviolence.htm
www.asiaone.com/Digital/Features/Story/A1Story20090310-127311.html
www.mtv.com/news/articles/1507890/20050818/index.jhtml?headlines=true
csis.pace.edu/~scharff/learningcommunity/studentann/violentgames.doc
redblueamerica.com/truthornot/2008-04-17/do-video-games-grand-theft-auto-cause-violent-behavior-2748
there is alot more of sites stating that it does have an effect on kids. So having these kids just play violen games all day is just the same as having them all trained to kill.
and for the rest of my case he didn't touch so those will go thru this debate and he can't bring them back up.

You must look at whose case stood up more. Mine has stood up agianst his agruments. Also you must look at the facts i have given you countless examples and he gives you five. I have the facts to back me up and so you must look to my case mine is the stronger case.
Debate Round No. 2
tvann5m

Pro

"and for the rest of my case he didn't touch so those will go thru this debate and he can't bring them back up."
You had three arguments , and i posted three counter arguments.... How can i have not touched them...? That statement makes no sense at all. If it's more sources you want i can give them to you. I just don't see the point in listing countless sources the only point of sources is to prove that you didn't just pull the information out of your but.(it dosn't allow profanities...) Then why couldn't i bring them back up? you make no sense and you made no new point. So please tell me are there any reason's other than those three you keep bringing up? Your sources aren't even reliable. I mean one of them was a freaking word document. I quote "Video games will undoubtedly and inevitably lead to the downfall of all of humanity."...... Right video games are going to be the reason humanity dies? No i don't think so a nuclear fallout is much more likely. Now back to topic.

You where right the wii is only one example of a game to help obesity there are more. Such as guitar hero world tour, and rock band2 they offer a drum like controller and it takes allot of calories to play these games efficiently. It does help with obesity, Autism, rehabilitation, and many more.
http://www.clemburkedrummingproject.com...

"but playing video games will not turn 'normal 12-year-olds into school shooters', said Iowa State University's Distinguished Professor Craig Anderson, one of the world's foremost scholars on media violence."
This came from your source which only backs my source up more.(http://www.neoseeker.com...-/) If kids have a violent personality already than it is possible that they might get a little more angry.

Video games help allot more than just that. With the constant demand of new games and better graphics, and better computer AI etc. Games are the main reason we have so many computer advancements so fast, and another good reason we keep making graphic cards smaller and memory fit into smaller space etc is because nobody wants an ugly bulky console.

Of course you don't know who they are! DUH... Kids are going to be a lot more likely to talk to someone they don't know. Than some person they know from school that there already nervous around enough. I have a friend over xboox live that i gave advice to how to talk to girls. I actually got a girl on there to talk to him. He isn't single anymore.... It does help with social life and can make it much easier to talk to new people.

studies have shown games to actually save peoples life. It can help make a surgens hand more steady and it easier fo him to ditingish between the diffrent parts. Haveing the surgean less likely to make mistakes.
http://www.curse.com...

Some games even help kids with how to spend there money. Like the game runescape. It teachs kids to save money and it takes hard work to actually earn the money(gold in the game) to buy better items so they can kill monsters and other things easier. Such as geting void armour. It takes countless hours to get this armour from which you get through a mini game. You have to kill monsters that come from a portal which you have to destroy(a total of three in the mini game), and to protect the void knight. I'll also site on of the maney caountless ways of making money(more common to the free players of the game) in the game. Which is killing giants and geting there big bones which can be sold for a decent amount of money.This also techs kids to be the best they can because there are lots of people trying to get money this way so there is competiton just like in the job market who ever has the better resume(stats in game) gets the job.(if you don't know what i mean by stats is the levels your chracter has.)(i normally wouldn't go into so much detail but since he seems to think that is a big deal so i did)
http://edugamesblog.wordpress.com...

You Also don't have to sit around all day playing vidoe games. Yes some people do But there are people who abuse everything in life. I personaly play vidoe games at night when i can't be outside and be active. Many kids do this. Lots of soilders play games to help relive stress when there staioned somewhere. You say "Practicing violent acts may contribute more to aggressive behavior than passive television watching." How maney shows on telvision these days are truley passive?

I have countered your arguments sucefully and provided reliable sources(not shady microsoft word links) I have now countered all three of your arguments twice.
I have made better points. I have made several diffrent arguments. I have actually countered your arguments not just given links and let someone else do the work for me.
"You must look at whose case stood up more. Mine has stood up agianst his agruments. Also you must look at the facts i have given you countless examples and he gives you five."
yes i only gave five because i don't need people to argue my point for me. I only gave exampls because you made a big deal about it. I did counter all of your arguments i'm still not for sure where you got i didn't counter some of your arguments.

And to sum this all up

Video games are timeless and enjoyed by all people of every age and are just as benifical as they are fun.

I urge you to vote PRO.
Thank you for the debate.
Debatenewbie14

Con

frist of all have you ever debated you keep the same points the hole debate. Also the more info and the more sources you have the more proof you have. The voters must see that I have provided you with many sources we my oppent has given you barely any at most. Therefor you must look to see who has the side of proof.

You say that games help to stop the growing obesity problem. How can they stop the problem when they were the one of the problems that started it. These games have you sitting in your living room your bed room well any room staring at a tv screen and sitting in a chair or something like it. I have given you examples apon example of sciencist that have studied this problem and have found that Playing Video games can cause you to gain wieght 3/5 kids did gain over 15 pounds by playing videogames for you sitt there and you most likely will get food and you will not notice what you are eating and how much. Their for if this does hurt our kids why are we willing to put these childeren thru this wy not teach them to get excirse to get healthy to get into sports. I am not saying that i know how to raise kids better but i am say off of countless sciencists saying the same thing playing videogames most likely will make you fat.
If a child does have a violent yes i agree they can get a little more angry but as Dr. Craig A. Anderson, Ph.D., of Iowa State University in Ames, and his colleagues looked at how children and teen's video game habits at one time point related to their behavior three to six months later. They found out In every group, children who were exposed to more video game violence did become more aggressive over time than their peers who had less exposure. This was true even after the researchers took into account how aggressive the children were at the beginning of the study -- a strong predictor of future bad behavior. There are many others reseachers that have also found this but this is the most resent. Childerent that watch and play these games start to internalize the message that the world is a hostile place. Therefor they begin to become desensitized to violence. Huesmann said. "Once you're emotionally numb to violence, it's much easier to engage in violence." . Therefor we will be creating a more violent generation.
My opponet says things about that they are becoming smaller I don't see the revelity to the topic therefor you can not look to that agrument for it has nothing to do with the topic. He also says that it is because of these video games are the reason that we have more technologe um no it is because of hard working people that work their tails off to keep us in the 21st century.

Ok he also states that it helps with social life, he states "Of course you don't know who they are!" How safe is that um not really you don't know who they are they could be a person that wants to hurt you or it good be a good person you can never know they lie all the time. It is just simply not safe. And the example that he gave is just one example I can also give you one to. One of my friends sister was on the xbox live were she found who she thought was the guy that she had a crush on but it turned out that it was his uncle who had hurt some woman but the cops did find before anythign happen but even if he hadn't been caught and he was who he saided he was it still was a risk that she thought was a safe one. 4/9 of people find people that they think is someone that they know when it turns out to be some one totally dfferent. And 5/8 of those people get hurt by those people who they think is some one they know.

I would just like to say before i go on that tvann5m has all thru his agrument has made rude and unessary comments to me. The voters must look at that and take that into account. For being rude you can not trust and believe and a debate that is really imporant. So if he can't show respect towards me then how can you trust him? You can't.

I agree with his point that it can teach them to save money but he states "It takes countless hours to get this armour from which you get through a mini game. You have to kill monsters that come from a portal which you have to destroy(a total of three in the mini game), and to protect the void knight. I'll also site on of the maney caountless ways of making money(more common to the free players of the game) in the game. Which is killing giants and geting there big bones which can be sold for a decent amount of money.This also techs kids to be the best they can because there are lots of people trying to get money this way so there is competiton just like in the job market who ever has the better resume(stats in game) gets the job." Thru that whole thing it just says voilence. Ok so you have to sell someones bones to get money. More violence we are only teaching those kids to be more violent thru these games.

Then he states that you don't have to sit down, ok what else are they supposed to do stand up? Then he says you don't have to all day no you don't. But after awhile you get you get addicted and soon you can do it all day.

I would like to say at this time that my oppent has change his case twice now and in a debate you try to keep you debate case the same, well I have and I have proven my points over and over again I have given you many sources that agree with me, and my oppent has only given a few. I do prove thru my words and by others and just to note that these people are not doing my work for me I just just using that stuff that they have proven thru reseached.
I didn't ask for him to have examples I just said that he had no proof he didn't have to I just stated. He also said that he would provide examples if asked and so I don't know why he is getting so mad that he has to do work. lol jk

I have given you strong agrument that have stood up to his agrument easily once agian they are
1. Practicing violent acts may contribute more to aggressive behavior than passive television watching
2.Over-dependence on video games could foster social isolation.
3.In many violent games, players must become more violent to win
I have proven my first two the whole way. He didn't touch my third argument so there for that goes thru with no questions.
and he has given so many agrument i don't think that he knows who many he has and he hasn't proven those agruments as well as I have.
Say that this ok is saying it is ok to do violent things and it is ok just to lay around the house.We need to say that it is ok to be heathly and it is good to meet knew people face to face and not thru a computer.
You need to vote con not just becuase I say so but because I have shown you three ways that this can and will be bad.

VOTE CON!!!
lol I did that for fun
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Cujosrevenge 7 years ago
Cujosrevenge
I LIVE FOR VIDEOGAMES... IF I could vote... ID BE ALL IN FOR TVANN5M
Posted by Sniperjake1994 7 years ago
Sniperjake1994
Duh.
Posted by tvann5m 7 years ago
tvann5m
ugh wish i had made the debate one more round.
i also kept the same arguments i just added new one.
well anyway good debate and good luck.
Posted by Debatenewbie14 7 years ago
Debatenewbie14
well i do not know all things but I debate my LD rules for that is what I am good at I am sorry that I made that comment but you know what read his 3 round and tell me that any of those things are ok I was mad I am sorry but you know what he needs to learn something about manners
Posted by rofflewoffles 7 years ago
rofflewoffles
why didn't pro just bring up the fact that it provides happiness to those playing it and happiness outweighs all?
Posted by Epicism 7 years ago
Epicism
NFLonline.org Isn't sumpreme, its for CX PF LD and speech. Why would you think NFLonline shows the only ways to debate?
Posted by Debatenewbie14 7 years ago
Debatenewbie14
hey dude have you ever debated you are supposed to keep the same aruments look it up NFLonline.org dude you could learn something
Posted by tvann5m 7 years ago
tvann5m
wait panda your 40?
what 40 year-old would make a username i-am-a-panda
and your profile says your 14.....
so your a liar..
Posted by Ragnar_Rahl 7 years ago
Ragnar_Rahl
Video games are not beneficial to people of age 122 yet, to my knowledge.
Posted by Debatenewbie14 7 years ago
Debatenewbie14
you can't forget when it will always be on there
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