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Violent Video games should be ban

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/4/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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stackerz21

Pro

Violent Video games should be ban because it could affect of how children/people think, do.
1814Username

Con

This is a very good debate topic. However, it is clear that video games do not lead to violent outbursts. The following are three articles about this:

http://www.forbes.com...
http://www.usnews.com...
http://psychcentral.com...

In the United States, there is a lot of fear mongering in the media. If it bleeds it leads, is not just a cute expression. In America sensationalism sells. I have been around real violence. I have seen death first hand. What I observed is that in life there are very specific reasons why people commit violent acts and in many cases, it took two to tango. Rarely, is just an innocent bystander attacked at random. The only exception I can make for that are street gangs. Street gangs will attack at random.
Debate Round No. 1
stackerz21

Pro

How about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

and this

http://news.bbc.co.uk...

Thai newspapers say the teenager, whose name has been withheld, was arrested while trying to steer a cab backwards out of a Bangkok street with the driver still in the back seat.
Police claim the 18-year-old confessed to stealing the taxi and said he kille
Bangkok police
"He wanted money to play the game. His parents, who work as civil servants, did not have enough money to give him."
Thailand's Culture Ministry has recently been pushing for tougher regulation of games like Grand Theft Auto.
It wants stricter age ratings and restrictions on the hours that people can play games in arcades.
Ladda Thangsupachai, director of the ministry's Cultural Surveillance Centre, said: "This time-bomb has already exploded and the situation could get worse. Today it is a cab driver, but tomd the 54-year-old driver after he fought back. The teenager could face the death penalty if he is found guilty.
Bangkok police Captain Veerarit Pipatanasak said: "He wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game.

He wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game.
Captain Veerarit Pipatanasakorrow it could be a video game shop owner."

THIS PROVES THAT VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES SHOULD BE BANNED
1814Username

Con

The newspaper argument you posted is one individual and it does not prove that video games make people violent. In fact, what your article proves is that people will do anything to get what they want. The video game did not make that person violent. His desire to get something he did not have made him violent. It is the same as a person who steals.

What fear mongers and paranoid people do is pick something violent people have in common and say that is the cause of violence. Well, all people have toothbrushes, clothes, TVs, etc. We could just as easily say those things cause violence. Yet, we all know the don't. The odds of a violent person having a video game is very high since many households have them. That doesn't mean the video games cause violence. It just means people like the product so they purchased it.

Like I said, I have been around real violence. When a person does something violent, it is for very specific reasons within that person. It has nothing to do with a game. If anything, the game lets the person relieve the stress in a non-harmful way. Want to see a really violent person? See a person who holds everything in and then one day just snaps.

Look at all the violence cases. Go past the news or the twitter feeds that tell you nothing. Look at the case itself. What cause violence is more than likely two people going at it and in most cases, both parties are at fault in some way.
Debate Round No. 2
stackerz21

Pro

stackerz21 forfeited this round.
1814Username

Con

My arguments are pretty much done. The research shows video games do not cause violence. If anything, TV has conditioned the American public more than anything. America is so crazy that it wont blink an eye if on TV a person is decapitated, but show a naked woman and everyone will freak out. Video games are the least of America's worries.
Debate Round No. 3
stackerz21

Pro

Don't focus in America focus in the whole world. An 8-year-old boy intentionally killed a 90-year-old woman when he shot her in the head inside a Louisiana mobile home after playing a violent video game, police said.

But the child won"t be charged with a crime.

The boy fatally shot his elderly caregiver, Marie Smothers, after playing "Grand Theft Auto IV" " a video game critics often blame for promoting violence " inside the mobile home at a Slaughter, La., trailer park Thursday evening, police said.

Smothers was sitting in a chair and watching television when the unidentified boy fired one round into the back of her head, the East Feliciana Parish Sheriff"s Office said.

The violent video game is considered inappropriate for children 17 and under.
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The violent video game is considered inappropriate for children 17 and under.
The boy was taken into custody at the scene, but later released to his parents, because Louisiana state law prevents children under 10 from being charged with a crime.

"You have a child that does not know the impact or the consequences of the act that he has committed," Sclynski Legier, an attorney, told WAFB-TV. "He truly doesn"t understand that."

The child initially told investigators that he accidentally shot Smothers while playing with the loaded pistol. But police later determined the elderly woman was targeted.

Cops said the 8-year-old boy had just finished playing "Grand Theft Auto IV" - a video game critics blame for encouraging violence - before he fatally shot a 90-year-old woman.
WWW.WAFB.COM
Cops said the 8-year-old boy had just finished playing "Grand Theft Auto IV" - a video game critics blame for encouraging violence - before he fatally shot a 90-year-old woman.
Cops didn"t reveal a motive for the killing, but said that the boy was close to the woman he allegedly shot.

"By accounts of relatives of the victim, as well as friends of the family, the victim and the juvenile had a normal, loving relationship," police officials said in a statement to The Advocate.

Investigators found that the boy had just finished playing the video game that police called "a realistic game that has been associated with encouraging violence and awards points to players for killing people."

That's why the other countries banned GTA. It's an example.
1814Username

Con

The incident you cited is one incident out of the hundreds of millions of people who play video games. If we used that logic, we could come up causal relationships for everything and anything. For example, the day Charles Manson killed people he ate eggs for breakfast. Well, let us ban eggs because eggs obviously lead to mass murder. Come on. Who are we kidding?

I wonder if in the example you cited, the little boy watched violent TV shows? I am sure he did. In all reality, the kids did not know the difference between death seen on a TV and real death. In the situation you identified, the real issues are: A) how did an eight year old get a gun and B) how come no one was supervising him. Really, it gets down to poor parenting.

I could agree there should be age limits for certain games, but an outright ban is ridiculous. Like I said in my very first post, people kill others for very specific reasons and often, both parties are at fault. I have seen real violence. Very few instances are just random attacks.
Debate Round No. 4
stackerz21

Pro

If you said that its just that something causes.. THEN WHY THERE ARE MANY CRIMES RELATING TO VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES MOST ARE 18 below age
1814Username

Con

In your last post, you said there are many crimes caused by video games. Actually, no there are not. You cited 1 example out of a country that has over 3,000,000 prisoners and 7,000,000 more who are not in the system any longer. Bottom line is this, you can find a relationship between crime and anything you want. All the people who ever committed crimes were breathing that day. So therefore, breathing causes crimes. Come on, who are we kidding? Like I said, I have been around real violence. In real violent confrontations, there are very specific reasons why people commit those acts. It isn't the video games. Plus, 67% of American households have video games in them. Out of all those households, we have one incident of a violence that was supposedly due to a video game. There does not need to be a ban.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Yodawgimepic 3 years ago
Yodawgimepic
VIolent games are not god approved, it may be fun but their bad..
Posted by kw7319 3 years ago
kw7319
While not outright banning video games, I believe that there should be tighter restrictions for people who buy R rated games. They should be required to show ID. I know 9, 10, and 16 year olds who have personally bought R rated games (Grand theft Auto, Call of Duty) from gamestop with their own money.

Also, I believe that in order to watch R rated shows or movies, you should be required to show ID proving you are over 18. I know a friend (who was 14 at the time) and went into a movie theater (with his father) and watched an R rated movie.

Would 1814username agree to these restrictions (people buying or watching movies/video games that are R rated providing ID showing that they are above 18)?
Posted by Forte 3 years ago
Forte
Instead of outright banning, how about parents actually give a f**k about the ESRB ratings. You can't buy your kids rated-M games and then turn around and complain how violent games are corrupting youth.
Posted by ben671176 3 years ago
ben671176
[Sorry this is just a grammar fix]

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Posted by ben671176 3 years ago
ben671176
This is what I say: He who has the gold makes the Rules!" Oh, wait the man with the gold makes the games. . .
Posted by 1814Username 3 years ago
1814Username
I am not against a rating system, but really it is all hypocrisy when I can turn on the TV and see a hundred people killed in a two hour movie. Who are we really kidding?
Posted by JPKnight12 3 years ago
JPKnight12
Personally i feel that the rules on who can buy certain games should be stricter, and the ESRB should revamp their scoring process (namely by adding a T15+ rating or something of the like), but an outright ban is simply ridiculous.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro didn't fulfil his/her BoP, as Con rightly pointed out: one or two bad instances does not mean that violent video-games should be banned. Conduct to Con for Pro's round forfeit. Con's sources gave good evidence for his claims, too, whilst Pro's did not help him fulfil his/her BoP.