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Visiting Forces Agreement

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Started: 9/22/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Mr.Logic

Con

I clearly oppose the Visiting Forces Agreement between the Philippines and The United States because the VFA is considered as a bastardization of the Philippine Sovereignty. First of all, under one of the provisions of the Visiting Forces Agreement, the Americans do not have respect or regards to the rules, laws and regulations of the Philippines. It is they who are the visitors, yet they want them to reign and to set their own rules and regulations for themselves in our homeland and territory. Second, in the Article V of the VFA, the "official acts" which includes the restrictions given to the Americans does not include the heinous crimes that the American Soldiers may do on the country. And Under Article VIII of the VFA, there is no limitation in the "access" of the American troops in the Philippines, even in the remotest areas in the country.
Jingle_Bombs

Pro

Well first off, lets be clear, the Philippines owe the U.S. for WW2. General MacArthur didn't have to say "I shall return" against the Japanese invaders but he did.

Second, I challenge Con to provide clear and repeated examples or trends of mal treatment by US forces against the host country's population. I think the facts will reveal that mal treatment cases since 1980 are extremely rare and are swiftly handled through UCMJ and the court system.

Third, I'd like to point out to Con that a US military prescense in the Philippinies is clearly an advantage to country. Besides the bonus of $193 million US aid -which is equivalent to about $9 billion in Philippine dollars- the U.S. has also been an active supporter of the Philippine government against the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, providing the government with equipment, material, intellegence, and occaonal Spec-op support as part of the larger Global War on Terror. A US military presence also counterbalances Chinese influence and allows the Philippine government to focus its efforts on internal development and domestic security, which Con will note from history is something the Phillippines have always struggled with.

US Aid: http://philippines.usaid.gov...
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