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Idontcare
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Vote for Hilary! YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!

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Started: 1/19/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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kibbles

Pro

Hi!
I just wanted to ask you why you think she would make a good president?
And what she would be able to offer this country?
Idontcare

Con

even though this debate is about Hillary, who do you want to win? just wondering.

Anyway, Hillary Clinton would make a good president because she is a strong candidate who has plenty of experience in politics which i believe should be the base for every candidates campaign.

She has over 35 years of experience (as if you haven't heard) in politics, and has been the first lady.

And i obliviously want her to win because i agree with what she stands for and, her views/plans on the "Issues" a lot of people i know don't really know anything about her, but just don't like her, granted i live in Illinois, but i'd guess you don't know much about her views either.

so i hope i've answered your question, but just to recap, she has experience to offer this country, and i think she would make a good president because she has the right ideas of what needs to be done in America.

oh and hi
Debate Round No. 1
kibbles

Pro

Hi! (Bill Clinton's experience doesn't count!)
What 35 years of political experience does she have? (explain)
And Being a first lady does not qualify you to be a president!
A first lady has no official duties,
But often participates in humanitarian and charitable events.
And is in charge of all social and ceremonial events in the white house.
If we want to elect a party planner then she would be the right person for the job!

There is also a STRICT TABOO that a first lady has to follow!

If she wins the election, do you think Bill will respect that this is not his job anymore?
In the condition that are country is in we need someone that will be strong and able to handle foreign affairs. If at all possible to bring peace to any situation but... can she defend our country if need be by choosing to go to war?
But we also need to think about other countries that don't respect women and their opinions. Do you think there going to respect her opinions?

And I do know what her views are! I simply don't agree with them!!

For example this is just one of her views.
She wants to add more regulations to the right to own guns, but do you think that the gangs and bad people are going to abide by the rules? I don't think so!! Taking our rights away will not stop those that choose to not obey the laws, it only stops law abiding citizens from protecting themselves and property. It is our constitutional right to bear arms.
Just because you make something illegal doesn't mean people won't use them!

She also wants to raise taxes, which doesn't help the lower and middle class citizens.

The national health care system that she desires to put into place that assures everyone health insurance is in my opinion a bad idea. Have you been to Canada to see there hospitals? I'll give you something to compare to go to one of our older veteran hospitals and that is the standard care for all individuals. Private or semiprivate is out of the question unless you are a high ranking government official. Checked with some of their citizens to see if it works for them? Canadians cannot choose a doctor for themselves and they have a long wait for non-emergency surgery's.
Idontcare

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Thank you for clarifying your topics.

What I meant by experience was pretty straight forward she has worked politically somehow for 35 years 16 of which are the first lady and Senator of new York, Not bill Clinton.

As for Bill Clinton running the office, After George bush, was a replica of his father, I don't think any republican has a right to say that. Back on topic, what would lead you to think that, Bill was a good president… but this is her campaign, and let's face it every ex president is a publicity tool and are an excellent tool foe a campaign.

In the condition that are country is in we need someone that will be strong and able to handle foreign affairs. If at all possible to bring peace to any situation but... can she defend our country if need be by choosing to go to war?
But we also need to think about other countries that don't respect women and their opinions. Do you think they're going to respect her opinions?

Let's look at that piece by piece, After George Bushes' Foreign Policy a trained monkey could come up with a better one, and Hillary is A LOT better than a trained monkey. Not to mention war is not always the answer, every democrat is against Iraq but, that is not to say they are against any military action, If a nation attacked a U.S. interest and political negations were not possible, Rest assured not just Hillary, but every candidate, would retaliate in a measured response, going as far to say a war would be a lie but there is no doubt that some action would be taken. But if an actual country, not a group, attacked the U.S. (our actual land) we would go to war.

As for other countries not respecting a woman's views that might be right but, don't look her it as woman, look as it as the most powerful country on earth's leader, and then they might have to listen.

I've said before that civilians with guns is like asking for death and it stands the same here, tighten the gun rules and you stop people from killing people, and it is illegal to kill someone who is robbing your house, you could be charged with murder and sent to jail because you Had a chance not to kill him but you did. You have a right to bear arms, but that isn't a right to shoot people. So what good is a gun going to do? Not to mention that that is the first step, first you make guns less available, than you crack down on the illegal ones, it sounds odd but that's how every major ban or crackdown has happened.

As for The fact that she is raising the taxes, Hillary and every other Democrat is doing so along with a form of restructuring the tax code to make less of a burden on the middle class, by raising the limit of your income that can be taxed (so that people who make 50 million a year aren't getting taxed the same amount that people making 97,500 a year) and what does help the lower and middle class citizens is a strong dollar which can be achieved with a currency (The Dollar) which isn't being "Blackmailed" By China allowing us to dump those commie Bas****s as trade partners or put taxes on their imports which would create more income AND decrease their competiveness which would bring more factory jobs back to the U.S. which would help the middle and lower class.

As for her healthcare being a bad idea, first off that proves you have rich parents, or at least "well off" ones, same as me, but you don't care about those less fortunate then yourself nearly as much as you should. And The United States can afford a ton more than the Canadians can, under Hillary's plan, because it is based off of the hospitals, and companies that are already in place. The system would also still be a "co payer" system meaning that not only is the system funded by nearly 600 million from the federal government but people pay for the insurance ,it's not free just discounted steeply , and when they go to the doctor's office, or hospital, they make a payment based on the cost of item. So would have no impact on the quality of the medical facilities.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Doctau 9 years ago
Doctau
There 2 reasons why voting for Hillary just seems insane.

1. She is backed by AIPAC, and all the major defense contractors. Shouldn't that tell you something right there? She was even at an AIPAC meeting saying that "all options are on the table" in regards to Iran. That means the option of potentially nukeing Iran is on the table.

2. She has too many ties in the political game. Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton , that is a dynasty, why would you ever want that for America?

If you like the Iraq war, and you want more wars to come, vote for Hillary.
Posted by armychick 9 years ago
armychick
When I saw this resolution I bursted out laughing!!!! That is so hilarious!!!! I love it!
Posted by righty10294 9 years ago
righty10294
I don't care- you can't use being a first lady expeirence, she had one job to do as a first lady, set up a health care plan. That lasted about 30 days give or take a couple. It really is BIll Clinton running. In a study by Fox News: in 1 Bill Clinton speech for Hilary, he used she/Hilary 10 times, while using the word I 112 times. Hmmmm
Posted by kibbles 9 years ago
kibbles
Hilary's an idiot!
She needs to stop telling everyone how to live!! and mind her business!
Posted by Idontcare 9 years ago
Idontcare
I would like to apolagize for the length of my second round but ask everyone to read it completely before they vote
Posted by Undermining-Chaos 9 years ago
Undermining-Chaos
She also wants to install giant view screens that would tell us how to raise our children.

Pardon my reply, but she's a fucking idiot.

1984 much?

George Orwell is probably turning in his grave.
Posted by Idontcare 9 years ago
Idontcare
Wow i was out of it...... that was a bad opening argument ha ha
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