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Tboyd110
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kels1123
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WHY DO COLOR MATTER IN MOST AREAS.

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Started: 12/30/2007 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Tboyd110

Con

OKAY TO START OUT MY ARGUMENT, I BELIEVE THAT COLOR SHOULD NOT MATTER ANY WHERE. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREAT EQUALLY AND RIGHT. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD STOP ALL THIS HATRED IN THE WORLD ON BLACKS AND WHITES. WE ARE ALL GOD'S CREATION. if we stop trinna focus on the color of other folks then maybe we all could get somewhere in life. white people have a saying about the blacks folks, and black folks got a saying about the whit fols. the white people saying about blacks folks are saggin spell it backwards and it spell's 'niggas'. and the black folks saying about the white folks is The white man said, "Colored people are not allowed here, "The Black man turned around and stood up. He then said:
"Listen Bitch...... when i was born, i was BROWN, ""when i grew up, i was BROWN, ""when i'm sick, i'm BROWN, "when i go in the sun i'm BROWN, "when i'm cold,i'm BROWN, ""when i die, i'll be BROWN, ""But you Bitch...........""when you'reborn, you're PINK, ""when you grow up, you're WHITE, ""when you're sick, you're GREEN, "when you go in the sun, you turn RED, "when you're cold, you turn BLUE, "And when you die, you turn PURPLE, "
And you have the nerve to call me colored?"Mutha Fuckin Bitch!!!"
If ur a real nigga pass this to 8 black people u know". so black people are very tired of the white people always bringging them down. here's something that a white man said about black people on a new york radio station.
THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES.. We can continue to reap profits from the
Blacks without the effort of physical slavery. Look at the curren t
methods of containment that they use on themselves: IGNORANCE, GREED,
and SELFISHNESS.

Their IGNORANCE is the primary weapon of containment. A great man once
said, "The best way to hide something from Black people is to put it in
a BOOK." We now live in the Information Age. They have gained the
opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of their
fight for freedom, yet they refuse to read. There are numerous books
readily available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon.com, not to
mention their own Black Bookstores that provide solid blueprints to
reach economic equality (which should have been their fight all along),
but few read consistently, if at all.

GREED is another powerful weapon of containment. Blacks, since the
abolition of slavery, have had large amounts of money at their disposal.
Last year they spent 10 billion dollars during Christmas, out of their
450 billion dollars in total yearly income (2.22%).

Any of us can use them as our target market, for any business venture
we care to dream up, no matter how outlandish, they will buy into it.
Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed. They
continually want more, with little thought for saving or investing.

They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a business.
Some even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy or FUBU, and
they still think that having a Mercedes, and a big house gives them
"Status" or that they have achieved their Dream.

They are fools! The vast majority of their people are still in poverty
because their greed holds them back from collectively making better
communities.

With the help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often
broadcasts destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to
see huge profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even
jeered them, saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the
fools spend more with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off
to each other while WE build solid communities with the profits from our
businesses that WE market to them.

SELFISHNESS, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the
major ways we can continue to contain them. One of their own, Dubois
said that there was an innate division in their culture. A "Talented
Tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are
segments of their culture that has achieved some "form" of success.
However, that segment missed the fullness of his work. They didn't read
that the "Talented Tenth" was then responsible to aid The Non-Talented
Ninety Percent in achieving a better life. Instead, that segment has
created another class, a Yuppie class that looks down on their people
or aids them in a condescending manner. They will never achieve what we
have. Their selfishness does not allow them to be able to work together
on any project or endeavor of substance. When they do get together,
their selfishness lets thei r egos get in the way of their goal. Their
so-called help organizations seem to only want to promote their name
without making any real change in their community.

They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our hotels,
and talk about what they will do, while they award plaques to the best
speakers, not to the best doers. Is there no end to their selfishness?
They steadfastly refuse to see that TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE (TEAM)

They do not understand that they are no better than each other because
of what they own, as a matter of fact, most of those Yuppies are but
one or two pay checks away from poverty. All of which is under the
control of our pens in our offices and our rooms.

Yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse to read,
continue to buy anything they want, and keep thinking they are "helping"
their communities by paying dues to organizations which do little other
than hold lavis h conv entions in our hotels. By the way, don't worry
about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T READ!!!!

(Prove them wrong. Please pass this on! After Reading it..)so my closing statement is wake up and welcome to the real world. we are all in this together, and what happened in the past need to stay in the past. thank you and have a great day.
kels1123

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I also believe color shouldn't matter , however I needed to take this debate to tell you that the things you have posted only sound offensive and make me think you secretly do think color matters... All your garbage that you posted sounds like racist junk. So maybe you just are young and haven't made sense with your post , but the way it comes across and you being con in the argument makes it seem that you are against the statement that color shouldn't matter ..so which is it ...

Anyway I will debate the PRO (I agree that Color shouldn't matter) as that is the side I have taken in this debate and maybe you agree maybe not ... I honeslt have no idea from your post
Color shouldn't matter , although unfortunately it seems to. i think racism is a problem on all sides and needs to stop. I think skin color is just that. I think part of the problem with racism is that all sides have stereotypes and do not overcome them. I do think that Black people and White people both have a sterotpe of the other , and if people didn't judge a person by the color of their skin and the stereotypes that come with it , maybe racism would fade away. Unfortunately that seems to be easier said than done. I think the problem is all sides see the other side as being racist ...and therefore it causes racism in you. For example , I was always intimidated by black women when I was younger and thought they didn't like me because I was white ...however as I have gotten older I have gotten to know black women personally have some in my family and understand that is not the case , just as I have talked to them and they said they thought all white women thought they were better than them and were snobby. Both of us have opened our eyes by getting to know each other. I feel if people did this color would matter less and less.
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Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
I know , I saw that and wondered about it too .. Although I do not agree with you , there was no question that you won and I had no choice but to vote for you as there was no argument against you.
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
If you're surprised by the votes here, just look at how many votes a guy got for forfeiting on his first round: http://www.debate.org... . Unbelievable!
Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
It is the factor of sympathy. If you vote for anything modern media views as non-progressive, you are the devil. A handout, if you will. Just like everything else given to these people.
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
I honestly can't believe I am losing this debate. How did anyone even understand Con's debate.
Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
Tboyd, perhaps going to school and stopping rap music from reaching your ears will help you become a more civilized person.

Also, respect our English language. You are butchering all of the rules set in place by our English forefathers, and disgracing the language.
Posted by BrianFranklin 9 years ago
BrianFranklin
Tboyd,

You are a black kid, am I right?
Posted by Tboyd110 9 years ago
Tboyd110
OKAY YEAH I AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE NAME CALLING TING BUT ANYWHO I'M NOT INSULTING ANYBODY, I'M JUST SPEAKING MII MINE BUT ANY WAYZ THIS DEBAT SHOULD BE OVER ANYWYAZ SO IT REALLY DON'T MATTER ANYMORE.
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
Okay again Tboyd , stop INSULTING EVERYONE. You are acting like a child.You want your opinion to be respected then give people respect. Give your opinion, but stop with the name calling. It is immature.
Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
Of course Boyd, your facts make perfect "since", simply because you are black. If color does not matter, you should be standing for what is right for all colors not just your "colore" people.

I read your ill prepared statement, and my point is you lack anything credible to debate. A wonder that Kels1123 found something of worth to counter with an honest debate.

Also, on the NAACP, that is exactly what I said. If color did not matter, the NAACP would not be around. However, because Black America is still stuck in the phase of victimhood, they can do nothing but insult and cry racism when someone questions the establishment, such as Mr. Boyd here. Please sir, learn to spell and put together a credible argument, rather than insulting whites with what color they turn when they are sick and sunburned. It would make your points seem at least a bit credible.

Also, funny to note how it is alright to insult whites, yet if anyone said anything close to hurting the pride of a black person, immediately they would be set upon with fury.
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
some dumb person, see that is offensive. If you don't go off insulting people it will sound more intelligent.
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