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Was Hitler a Good Leader?

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Started: 5/3/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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DisaterX

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I am against this as Hitler did very little within the government. He was mainly interested in foreign policy and anti-semitism rather than domestic policy, as outlined in Mein Kampf. Furthermore, he usually left most of the work for his competing henchmen below him whilst he simply approved it in the Burghof. What does everybody else think?
Kienzan

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Hello and lets have fun debating ^^.

I will show that Adolf Hitler is a good leader and the best thing that could have happened to Germany in the 30's.

The Weimar republic was cornered by the Treaty of Versailles and the great depression. They only exit Germany had was someone radical to "take care" of things. History proved that he was up to the task. He managed to reignite the German economy while the rest of the world was still in the great depression. That alone is enough to name Hitler a good leader.

Your attempt to discredit Hitler because he delegated tasks to ministers, bureaucrats, scientist can be used to discredit all state leaders.
How does a Head of state gets things done?
A head of state's job is to choose the general policies and direction of the government and to chooses the people to whom he will delegate the task of realizing the policies . That is what every successful modern statesman has done.

How many American presidents can you recall that took a more active role and acted like a Legislator or a General in order to write laws or command the armies themselves?
Debate Round No. 1
DisaterX

Con

Yes, leader to delegate tasks to their ministers. But a fact you are missing out is the point of view from members within the Nazi Party. Many of them stated that Hitler was very lazy, was bored by paperwork and used the excuse that "everything would sort itself out".

Throughout your argument, you use the "he". When in fact it was down to Hjalmar Schacht for reigniting the economy through his policy of selling more consumer goods. Hitler removed him because he wanted to focus on re-armament and when that happened, inflation rose and the economy generally got worse with Goring at the helm.

In terms of politics, he would rarely intervene in anything that bored him, this included any domestic policy. Anything he was interested in e.g. Foreign policy and anti-Semitism, he intervened as little as possible. Overall, Hitler was a shambolic leader who was simply a face on the Nazi Party.
Kienzan

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Posted by DeeAnn 3 years ago
DeeAnn
Hitler waged a war and lost, if he wanted the best for his people he would not have waged war nor lost. He could have built up his economy and built a prosperous nation, instead he wanted to take revenge for his own selfish reasons. If he believed he was doing the best for Germany, he should have at least been open minded to what his citizens said. Instead, he executed those who opposed him.
Posted by DisaterX 3 years ago
DisaterX
A good leader would help push specific policies through which Hitler never did, he would simply have the "do what you like" attitude towards his henchmen. He was completely different from Stalin, who wanted to control everything, from the military to agriculture to arts, yet he is constantly compared with him. I also never said, he didn't support the idea of exterminating the Jews, I simply said he never developed the plan.
Posted by Actionsspeak 3 years ago
Actionsspeak
You admit he supported it which aids my argument, especially since the fuhrer had complete authority in germany. Obama may not be the person that designed national health care, however he still used it and supported it, hence the term obamacare. Saying the people who though up the idea are automatically the implamenters is a great lie.
Posted by DisaterX 3 years ago
DisaterX
@Actionsspeak - Even though the holocaust was not designed by him, he simply approved it. The main architects were Heydrich and Eichmann at the Wannsee Conference in 1942. Hitler simply stated he wanted the destruction of the Jews in his World View and various speeches he made throughout his time in power.
Posted by Actionsspeak 3 years ago
Actionsspeak
He has ceaser syndrome (complete power over an incredibly strong army), but he lived long enough to turn into a vilain and greatly abuse power.
(Note: greatly is an understatement)
Posted by Actionsspeak 3 years ago
Actionsspeak
He was a strong leader, and originally a good one. However my cost-benefit analysis has the holocaust as a greater con that everything good he has done. (Economic and scientific)
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