Was Jesus actually human?
Debate Rounds (3)
So my argument or thought just popped up.
Was Jesus actually human because Mary the Virgin had Jesus the baby so from this there can only be 2 situations. either God imprinted his DNA on the baby or the baby was composed out of Mary's DNA entirely. Both these situations either lead to a conclusion that
1. Jesus was part God part Human
2. Jesus was a clone out of Mary. (like a male version of Mary)
Again this is not my belief but just a stray thought that I'd like another person's opinion on.
Its three in one. But they are still separate things.
God was both man and God but still each separately. Does this answer your question?
So was God actually human and a Supernatural being or is God entirely human as well but just blessed with special powers?
If god was a little bit of human and god then Jesus would still have some supernatural DNA in him still making him not entirely pure human. If he is just a human with special powers it could be debated why he is claimed to be an god when he could easily succumb to sins just as all the other humans have done.
My second point of argument is that the miracles in the bible state that Jesus could call upon miracles to be bestowed on people. There is strangely no mention that any other humans could have called on god to perform miracles to the public. This seems to me that the bible is implying that Jesus was regarded by God as someone of more importance than the other people of the Earth. From this I can conclude that God regarded his son higher than his human creations (meaning that Jesus isn't human)
No. You have made a mistake. In the Old Testament of the Bible MANY other people did miracles, BUT let me clarify. THEY WERE NOT GOD. THEY TOO DID ACTUALLY NOT DO MIRACLES. God used them to do HIS miracles. He was working through them. =) Miracles are still done today.
Please let e know if you still don't understand.
In a sense Jesus was created by God. However, it wasn't mentioned in the bible that Jesus made any mistakes during his short period of time on Earth. He did not succumb to any sin even when tempted by the devil.
The catholic creation story is based around Adam and Eve. This happened when Adam and Eve were created by God and was placed in a paradise. God set specific instructions to not eat from the Tree of Life. A snake then tricked Eve into eating the fruit and as a result Adam ate the fruit as well. As punishment, Adam and Eve was sent to Earth and could never return to the paradise. From this a conclusion can be formed that god wanted Adam and Eve to mature and to gain wisdom from their mistakes.
So in one sense Jesus was created as a perfect being that is always shown as a well groomed slim man and on the other hand you have Adam and Eve, 2 relatable and flawed average human beings blessed with intellect and curiosity. So can we still say that Jesus was a human if he could not fall to sin and he did not posses curiosity like his predecessors Adam and Eve?
If the following is true did this mean that Jesus was even human because he lacked the independence to commit actions that strayed from God as children in modern society defy their parents?
BTW thank you TalkForLife for a very interesting and intriguing debate and I wish you luck on your other debates. ;D
I am not a Catholic and do not agree with their rituals. By the way, Christians also have that creation story =)
The question about whether The Garden of Eden was on earth or in heaven is being constantly debated. I myself believe that it was on earth and that the earth was sinless before Adam and Eve sinned.
Okay, Can God sin? No. He is sinless and without blemish. So if Jesus was fully God He could not sin. He did not posses curiosity as He was God.
Also in the book of Isaiah in the Bible it says that nothing made Jesus attractive, He wasn't "well-groomed." He was a normal man (But still God). People walked past Him in the streets not knowing who He was.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this debate and somewhere inside me I feel that it is not finished; You still have more questions, which God willing I can try to answer. If you agree please join me in Was Jesus actually Human? Part 2, which I will start now, inviting you to debate with me.
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by Geogeer 2 years ago
|Agreed with before the debate:||-||-||0 points|
|Agreed with after the debate:||-||-||0 points|
|Who had better conduct:||-||-||1 point|
|Had better spelling and grammar:||-||-||1 point|
|Made more convincing arguments:||-||-||3 points|
|Used the most reliable sources:||-||-||2 points|
|Total points awarded:||0||3|
Reasons for voting decision: This is really a discussion and not a debate and should probably be in the forums. However, given the forums on this site (particularly the religion forum) this could be rather brutal on both of you. All in all Pro made the better argument as she was really the only one making arguments.
You are not eligible to vote on this debate
This debate has been configured to only allow voters who meet the requirements set by the debaters. This debate either has an Elo score requirement or is to be voted on by a select panel of judges.