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GaiusOctaviusCaesar
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warren42
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Was Super Bowl 49 Rigged? Seattle Seahawks vs. New England Patriots

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/1/2015 Category: Sports
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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GaiusOctaviusCaesar

Pro

There is no way any coach as good as Pete Caroll would have thrown a pass over giving the ball to one of the best running backs in the game. Marshawn Lynch averages over 5 yards per carry and he would have been the go to player if not for the fact the Super Bowl was rigged this year. The NFL had a lot to gain by New England winning this season

The Super Bowl was rigged!
warren42

Con

I accept. Since it seems my opponent gave arguments without support, I assume he/she will further develop these points in the later rounds, so I won't use R1 for argumentation.
Debate Round No. 1
GaiusOctaviusCaesar

Pro

GaiusOctaviusCaesar forfeited this round.
warren42

Con

Well, as the BoP is on Pro, hopefully he can fulfill it before the end.

Now for my contentions.

1. The pass wasn't a bad call
2. Kearse's catch
3. There was no reason for the Patriots to win

1. Wilson's pass percentage is 63% [1]. The catch was a probable touchdown. Ultimately it may have been less probable than the rush, but still a likely conversion. Now, it was actually (in theory) a good call. This is because if completed, obviously that's great. if not, it would stop the clock, which leaves time for at least one more attempt. A run would have left the clock running, and they only had one timeout remaining. Additionally, the Patriots were expecting the run, so the Seahawks thought they'd catch the Pats off-guard.

2. Kearse would have let the ball drop on his late-game catch if the game was rigged.

3. if the game was rigged, Seattle would have won. The Seahawks franchise is more profitable to the NFL. Of the top 25 selling jerseys, four Seahawks players are in the ranks, and one CUSTOMIZED jersey is up there. A specific customized jersey is outselling all Patriots players beside Tom Brady, who is the only Patriot in the top 25 [2]. Additionally, with the Patriots poor image after the deflate gate scandal, the NFL would be making a bad decision by having them win.

[1] http://espn.go.com...
[2] http://www.nflshop.com...
Debate Round No. 2
GaiusOctaviusCaesar

Pro

GaiusOctaviusCaesar forfeited this round.
warren42

Con

Please extend my arguments.
Debate Round No. 3
GaiusOctaviusCaesar

Pro

GaiusOctaviusCaesar forfeited this round.
warren42

Con

Well please extend.
Debate Round No. 4
GaiusOctaviusCaesar

Pro

GaiusOctaviusCaesar forfeited this round.
warren42

Con

Great job to Pro. Intense debate. Please extend. Thanks.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by MayanLongCount 2 years ago
MayanLongCount
looks like gaius octavius lost. nice going fella.

next time show up to defend a perfectly righteous point of view.

what's worse: not defending the need for honesty or throwing a game??

perhaps not choosing a name of a roman thug might help.
Posted by acalvo01 2 years ago
acalvo01
People,this goes far beyond just Las Vegas,and many of this rigging can change based on public pressure.This fake football only occurs in the NFL,not in college,or high school,although there are crooked refs in those lower tiers,as well as good refs,that make costly errors in games.The NFL is nothing like that.They are the epitome of predetermined outcomes.I needed to do this debate,because warren42 would not be happy with the outcome.The NFL ABSOLUTELY is not fake,but it is ABSOLUTELY predetermined!
Posted by MayanLongCount 2 years ago
MayanLongCount
the woody hayes rule re forward pass. 2 of 3 options are undesirable. no matter what % the QB had, the risk of interception over the middle is far too great. notice the result. as for WHO rigged the game, i never thought it was the league. consider the payoffs from betting.

if the game was not rigged, then pete carroll is the dumbest coach ever. i am no patriot fan.
Posted by gabeyz 2 years ago
gabeyz
ALSO the casinos in vegas made 100's of millions of dollars because the people said the hawks would win by 1 point so when the pats won..... the house made a stupid amount of money so i agree. ALSO 5/7 last super bowls the house won. 5/7 last super bowls the casinos made 100's of millions of dollars.... sorta looks like the game was set up. I sure think it was.
Posted by MayanLongCount 2 years ago
MayanLongCount
i completely agree. whole episode was a sham. what did nfl have to gain?? brady & belichick both nefarious dudes. as is goodell. gronkowski perhaps the dumbest looking player i have ever seen since i first saw an nfl game, 1955 detroit. go bobby layne!!
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