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LuxuriousShrimp96
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1Credo
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Was the universe created last Thursday?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/17/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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LuxuriousShrimp96

Pro

As prisoners to the present, we have no qualitative proof that the universe is as constant as we persieve it to be. For all we know the universe was created last Thursday.
1Credo

Con

Acceptance

I accept. I'd like to thank my opponent for creating this debate. I look forward to a good discussion!

Burden of Proof

My opponent must shoulder the burden of proof in this debate by showing that the universe was created last Thursday. If he is unable to accomplish this, then he will lose the debate.

Properly Basic Beliefs

The belief that we and our surroundings (including the universe) were created prior to last Thursday is a properly basic belief. Properly basic beliefs are the axioms of a belief system (the beliefs on which other beliefs are grounded) and do not themselves depend on the justification of other beliefs. We can use properly basic beliefs (i.e. the belief that the external world exists, the belief that the past is real, etc.) as justification for accepting propositions like "the universe was created prior to last Thursday".

Summary

I have argued that the belief that the universe was created prior to last Thursday is a properly basic belief, and as such it requires no justification based on other beliefs. My opponent has yet to provide an argument for thinking that the universe was created last Thursday. As such, he has failed to shoulder the burden of proof at this point in the debate. For now, then, we can reasonably conclude that the universe was not created last Thursday.

Thank you.

Sources
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Debate Round No. 1
LuxuriousShrimp96

Pro

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1Credo

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
LuxuriousShrimp96

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1Credo

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by 1Credo 1 year ago
1Credo
The belief that you exist is a prime example of what is called a "properly basic" belief.
Posted by flewk 1 year ago
flewk
@1Credo

You can't justify your beliefs. There is no absolute way to justify that you even exist.

Basically, faith.
Posted by 1Credo 2 years ago
1Credo
@flewk

That's an interesting view. If properly basic beliefs are "impossible" as you suggest, then how is it that you justify your own beliefs (i.e. the belief that the past is real, the belief that the external world really exists, the belief that there are other minds, etc.)?
Posted by flewk 2 years ago
flewk
You brought up basic belief. I would contend that those are impossible. There are underlying assumptions that eventually lead to the assumption of causality. Once you go beyond causality, the concept of basic belief requiring no justification no longer works because that requires a causal relationship.
Posted by Russia_The_almighty 2 years ago
Russia_The_almighty
This is debate is easy to win as far as my knowledge goes. All you need to prove is Soviet Russia and the rest of the universe was not created last Thursday and was created any day before or after that.
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Reasons for voting decision: Ff. Only Con had sources.