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Crayzman2297
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gamemaster
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We are ALL going to hell. No exceptions.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/3/2010 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Crayzman2297

Pro

I maintain that everyone on this earth is going to hell in some way or another. I will accept any challenger willing to have this debate with me.
gamemaster

Con

Please elaborate a little. By the way , please define "hell".

In case you are reffering to hell as : the abode of Satan and the forces of evil, where sinners suffer eternal punishment, sorry no, hell does not exist , so nobody is going there.

You need to explain some details.. when we are going, why, etc.. Until then.. nobody is going.
Debate Round No. 1
Crayzman2297

Pro

I've seen many of your debates; I look forward to arguing with you.

However, our ultimate point is one and the same, so we cannot argue, but we can try.

Anyways, what I was trying to say is that everyone is going to hell after they die, because every other religion says so. Everyone thinks the athiests (including myself) are going to hell. The Catholics think the protestants are going to hell, the Protestants think the muslims are going to hell, and so on.
Because everyone is declaring that everyone else is going to hell, how is it decided who has the RIGHT to? Which religion is right? A perfect by-the-book catholic will suffer eternal holy hellfire because of the Jews. The Jews will remain forever in purgatory because of the Muslims.
It's a circle.

I believe that no such place as hell does exist, so of course everyone says i'm going there.
Every religion violates some other religion. Thus why we will all burn in hell. (in theory)
gamemaster

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I know this debate is just for fun.. but now that I started I'll finish.

"Anyways, what I was trying to say is that everyone is going to hell after they die, because every other religion says so."

> The religious are a bunch of crazy people with various types of distorted perception of reality. As such, most of the things they say is nonsense. This too, because hell doesn't exist. Look, by this same logic, nobody is going to hell, because I SAY SO.

"I believe that no such place as hell does exist"

> If you don't believe that hell exists then you can't believe that somebody can go there.. And you agree with me so this is not a debate in fact.

"Every religion violates some other religion. Thus why we will all burn in hell."

> Non sequitur. To use the same logic, The sky is blue. Thus we will not all burn in hell.

Thanks for debating this most interesting controversial topic.
Debate Round No. 2
Crayzman2297

Pro

"because I SAY SO."
> you do not have any more claim to the fate of our souls after death than the catholics, lutherans, jews, muslims, buddhists, hindus, etc. etc. yaddah yaddah yaddah (insert random obscure denominations here) If they are speaking nonsense, and have no sway over the destination of our souls, and YOU have no sway over the destination of MY soul, does that mean you are speaking nonsense too?
If you are speaking nonsense, how does this make you capable of a reasonable debate. I could argue that everything you say is false now! ha!

"If you don't believe that hell exists then you can't believe that somebody can go there"
>I never said that I BELIEVE it. I said that I MAINTAIN it.

"the sky is blue. Thus we will not all burn in hell"
>We will all burn in hell regardless of the sky's color. (and it's gray today, so does that mean since it is NOT blue then we are all NOT not going to hell?)

It is my pleasure to debate this most interesting controversial topic.
I'll be here all week!
gamemaster

Con

"I never said that I BELIEVE it. I said that I MAINTAIN it."

>Maintain = to keep up; to preserve; to declare or affirm a point of view to be true 1/ assert: state categorically 2
1 en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maintain
2 wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The argument still stands then.

"If they are speaking nonsense, and have no sway over the destination of our souls, and YOU have no sway over the destination of MY soul, does that mean you are speaking nonsense too? If you are speaking nonsense, how does this make you capable of a reasonable debate. I could argue that everything you say is false now! ha!"

>Nonsense is not equal to false. Talking about God or Hell or Heaven is always nonsense, in some sense. Both of us are speaking about nonsense in this debate. This whole topic is nonsense.

The difference is that you make even less sense then me because you affirm and assert this idea that "we will all go to hell" and have the impossible mission of bringing some convincing evidence that it is not nonsense and that it is true. And you did not bring any , but only state and restate the idea. Thus I don't have anything more to say. Nobody is going to hell, no exceptions.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Crayzman2297 7 years ago
Crayzman2297
You're right. perhaps "hate" is the wrong word, seeing as it is entirely possible to disagree with somebody while still respecting them.. But lets face it; most people when confronted with persons of other faiths, although they may be cordial to one another, realize that one of them is doing it wrong.
Most people believe it isn't them.
Posted by sqr47 7 years ago
sqr47
By the way I'm talking about the religion in general, not specific people within that religion
Posted by sqr47 7 years ago
sqr47
Jews don't hate Catholics, Muslims don't hate Jews, this is absurd you can't say that everyone hates everyone else if you're not a member of any of these groups (you just said that you were atheist I believe)
Posted by Rockylightning 7 years ago
Rockylightning
We cannot go to a location that does not exist.
Posted by m93samman 7 years ago
m93samman
Many Catholics may SAY protestants are going to hell. I'm sure there are anti-semites who say Jews are going to hell. I'm sure this circle exists for all religions. But no religion in its holy scripture denounces any other religion. This whole debate is worthless.
Posted by kronosq 7 years ago
kronosq
Many religions don't believe in hell, thus we are not all going to hell because even though we violate their ethics, their disbelief in hell negates it.
Posted by Crayzman2297 7 years ago
Crayzman2297
lmao Jews...
Anyways, does anyone other than me dislike not having the last word?
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
The Jews aren't going to Hell. They're the Chosen People.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
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Fix and I will accept.
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