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We are created as equals

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Started: 5/8/2015 Category: People
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MuffinRaider

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In the first line, second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, it states "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal...", but are we truly equal? According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, equality is "the quality or state of being equal: the quality or state of having the same rights, social status, etc." By this definition, we are not created as equal individuals, before and after the creation of the Declaration of Independence. The funny thing is that Thomas Jefferson, writer of the Declaration of Independence, had slaves yet he said that ALL men are created equal. If all men were truly to have been equal, slavery would not have occurred. Jefferson contradicts his words that men are equal by his actions.
Let's face it; inequality is the basis to social hierarchies such as queens and dictators. We humans love our social hierarchies; we have complex hierarchies that over lap with each other. AN example of inequality in social hierarchies is a queen and a peasant. If men were truly equal, the peasant would be treated the same as the queen. Now, heading back to reality, in real life the peasant's lifestyle is harsh and difficult where the queen gets to live in a nice place full of servants. It's like that in our decade as well (just without the queen and peasants). The President of the United States gets to live in the White House, while some people are out there living homeless.
Each person has a different of strengths, once again justifying that we are not created equal. Some people are more probable to be successful while some of us are more set for failure. It's the inequality though that makes society a unique blend and clash of cultures. Without inequality, we would practically be clones of each other. Aristotle once said "The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal" and perhaps he's right. By making everyone equal, it would be like sucking the blood out of an animal.
Peatawn

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You used Merriam-Webster as your reference to the definition of "equality". However, other intelligible sources like www.dictionary.com don't use the words "same rights" and "social status" to define equality. You simply used the most convenient one for your side of the debate.

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Here's a difinition of "equality" according to www.dictionary.com

1. the state or quality of being equal; correspondence in quantity, degree, value, rank, or ability:

2. uniform character, as of motion or surface.

3. Mathematics. a statement that two quantities are equal; equation.

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1. the state of being equal

2. (maths) a statement, usually an equation, indicating that quantities or expressions on either side of an equal sign are equal in value

Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition

© William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins

Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012

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And while we're at it battling with the definition of words, I'll challenge "as"...

I could be born son of a King, or son of a peasant. Sure, my beginning assets would be different. But the title of this debate is being born "AS" equals (emphasis on the work "as").

Created "as" something (in our case, human) and created "in" something (fortune versus poverty) are two different things.

My first argument is that who we are doesn't change what we are. We humans are all... well... humans!

We are born human, and we die human. From birth to death is a journey called life: a journey where the roads within are different for every single one of us. But it doesn't change the fact that there are two major events in life that make us all equal, birth and death – the beginning and the end.

Debate Round No. 1
MuffinRaider

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Peatawn

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Debate Round No. 2
MuffinRaider

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Peatawn

Pro

I was being blunt in my last argument. Nonetheless, it is when I think on the grand scheme of things that I realize we are all indeed created as equals.

Since the Big Bang, all that has ever existed has a common ancestor, the first elements. Mostly hydrogen at first, with the creation of stars. The entire cocktail eventually formed the universe as we can observe it today. Life is created and powered by the stars. Without them, life would not be. I invite you all to watch the documentary series "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" hosted by famous astrophysicist and cosmologist Niel deGrasse Tyson, which is a continuation/remake of Carl Segan's documentary. After and while watching this series, your philosophy kicks in to realize that we are not just humans, we are universe.

Our Sun provides the Earth with the energy plants and animals require. The plants we eat, or the plants that the animals we eat eat... nothing could be possible without the conversion of energy coming from the Sun. The cells that compose our bodies are existing because there is conversion of energy. To dumb it all down, we are made of cells that exist because there is energy in the universe. But ultimately, everything that exists is made of atoms. You are made of atoms, so is the planet itself, the sun, and all the other stars, gases and planets in the universe. What makes you a living being merely results from the way these atoms combine through conversion. Basically, I am, you are and we are all "star stuff".

If you think universe-large, all existence is atoms (and their own building blocks such as quarks). How can we be any different one another? If the events of your life differ from someone else, or if you were born in poverty or wealth, that's what occurs after your creation. It all remains that we are all created with the same stuff that fills our universe. We are not in the universe, but we are part of it. Created all the same.
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