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Pluto2493
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jazz123
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We can help others by not helping at all

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/29/2007 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 898 times Debate No: 1139
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Pluto2493

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Most people today say we should help one another and share and such. But a world withut suffering does not exist. We must avoid the prevention of suffering as it is an inevitetable cycle.

1.The world's attempt to rationalize and stabilize a chaotic world- in its prevention of chaos and suffering, the world goes on a constant search for what is inherently true in the world, IE the will to truth. The will to truth can only lead to destruction- systematically killing off every new idol eventually turning inward. Nihilism is inevitable- only experiencing nihilism can we escape the current value system and embrace new values.
The great philospher Freidric Nietzsche wrote in his book Beyond Good and Evil that the attempt to prevent suffering makes us all slaves to the so called good natured freedom. We have an obligation to break free of our current assumption of suffering must be resisted and the mass promotion of human rights as being championed by the assumption of a necessary truth.

2.SPECTACLES OF SUFFERING SERVE AS ALIBIS FOR OTHER FORMS OF OPPRESSION WHICH JUSTIFY VIOLENCE AND OPPRESSION WORSE THAN THE CASE. SEEMING BENEVOLENT ACTORS LIKE THE RED CROSS CAN INSPIRE RACISM AND VIOLENCE WHEN CONSTRUCTING SPECTACLES OF SUFFERING. WE HAVE AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO CRITICALLY EXAMINE THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR POLICIES OR WE RISK REPRODUCING THE VERY HARMS WE SEEK TO ALLEVIATE. My CRITICISM ASKS THE UNDERLYING QUESTION, "AT WHAT COST?"

One is obligated only to oneself- the attempt to perfect ones most utmost self- all other obligations are just illusions.
jazz123

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vote for me i rock. I will vote for everyone who votes and leaves comment. I am the best so vote for me.
Debate Round No. 1
Pluto2493

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oh boo. I wanted to have a real debate. You suck. People watching this, vote for me if you believe my Nietzsche, but also if you hate seeing dumb people like this ruin your debates.
jazz123

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im just tired of getting screwed so know i am screwing people. Vote for me on some of my topics not this one and actuslly read the debates and see who presents it the best. srry pluto this one was the only one
Debate Round No. 2
Pluto2493

Pro

Your a jerk.

Vote for me, if your tired of people like this spoiling a great thing like debate.org. And, I put a lot of thought into the Nietzsche thing, did you even look at it.
jazz123

Con

jazz123 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Gato 9 years ago
Gato
What a shame... This debate sounded interesting.

jazz123 you take the internet way to seriously. I mean to take it personally when things don't go your way to the point where you're bitter and offended? You need to get out more.
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