The Instigator
TheBigFish13
Con (against)
Winning
2 Points
The Contender
UmbraRex
Pro (for)
Losing
0 Points

We don't need legal rights, the government should do what they want

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TheBigFish13
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/25/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TheBigFish13

Con

We as people lose our power over the country and how we live if we let the government run with no interference from us the people
UmbraRex

Pro

The government is made up of knowledgeable individuals that will be able to make the correct decisions in order to run the country effectively. Interference by the general populace would only hinder the decision making policies that our government has the knowledge and ability to create.
Debate Round No. 1
TheBigFish13

Con

Yes but even if they are knowledgeable individuals that doesn't mean they can be completely trusted. If they have complete power to do as they wish, eventuality they will start doing things for their own gain. Nothing will be able to stop those in power from doing as they wish with the country, and that will not only negatively affect the people of the country but also how other countries see the said country as a whole
UmbraRex

Pro

You say that the individuals that run the country aren't trustworthy, however you forget that these people have been voted in by the population. If we had no legal rights, we would have no right to vote, so the people that were voted in would have no authority to rule our country. Whoever replaces those currently in power may in fact be better for our country than the democratically elected parties, as there would be no need for the government to placate their voters, which allows them to focus more on their vision of our country.
Debate Round No. 2
TheBigFish13

Con

However if we lose our rights we will then not have the right to vote in people to run this country. If this is the case we will end up with people running the country that haven't been voted in by the people. This means that, although we could get someone better than current in power we could as easily have someone in power how is much worse. Because of this we might end up with someone in power that cares more for themselves than 'their vision of our country' as the vision for someone like that would involve them being in power perpetually and using that power to their own gain
UmbraRex

Pro

UmbraRex forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
TheBigFish13

Con

Do you concede and admit your defeat Umbra?
UmbraRex

Pro

You say that the country's new leaders would be much worse, but do you know that that would be the case? There is the possibility that the new leaders could greatly improve our country. It many be that the only reason that they weren't in power before is that their extremist views were shot down by the more popular democratic parties. Even if we have a leader that primarily wishes to further their own power, there won't be much that they can do in a modern society. Monarchs of old relied on the feudal system to keep themselves in power, which is effectively an extinct form of government. Modern despots rely on their total control of the army to ensure their rule. This hypothetical dictator would require the support of the majority of the army, navy and air-force, along with the support of the police force if they want to remain in power after using their power for massive personal gain. That is simply not viable in modern Britain.
Debate Round No. 4
TheBigFish13

Con

No Comment
UmbraRex

Pro

UmbraRex forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Sincerely_Millenial 1 year ago
Sincerely_Millenial
The United States government was founded on the principle that the government should not alone carry the power to dictate over the people. If we agreed with that principle, then there would have been no revolution to declare the United States and independent power separate from England which was ruled over by a Absolute Monarchy with Theocratic ideas. The statement that the government is made up of knowledgeable individuals who can make the correct decisions regarding the well-being of our country is anti-democratic. The phrase "We the People" states that the government that WE THE PEOPLE elect are meant to represent WE THE PEOPLE and our votes. The elected officials are not elected to make decisions for us, the are elected to represent WE THE PEOPLES' decisions as a whole country, not a single government.
Posted by ViceRegent 1 year ago
ViceRegent
I agree that if God does not exist, there is no such thing as legal rights and it is Lord of the Flies.
Posted by raskuseal 1 year ago
raskuseal
Just how exactly is the Virgina Battle flag anti-American? I can go on and on about this subject, but this isn't the time or place. So, if you want, I can create anther debate about my so called horrible profile picture. Just message me if so.
Posted by EverlastingMoment 1 year ago
EverlastingMoment
Associating the Confederates with the term 'anti-american militia' can be seen as very inaccurate and to some historians a downright ignorant term to appoint.
Posted by Reformist 1 year ago
Reformist
No raskeul he is the con Side of things

And I think its funny how you say that but your portrait is the confederate flag which represents the anti american militia that enslaved almost half of the population
Posted by raskuseal 1 year ago
raskuseal
Sooo what? TheBigFish13 thinks we should live under a tyrannical government like in North Korea!? YOU DOLT! There is no good reason why it's a good idea to be like them! Dictatorships give it's slave-citizens ZERO rights, they are always poor, always war torn, and usually third-world, just to name a few problems with that.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
"anything" should have a purpose ?
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Vote Placed by U.n 1 year ago
U.n
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