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Kinesis
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We should criminalize the payment of ransom

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/28/2009 Category: Society
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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bozzyraven

Con

This motion won't stop people paying.
human sacrifice is not a morally acceptable way of fighting kidnapping.
that the payment of ransom through the police allows a post transactional success and finally that when governments refuse to pay terrorists to save the lives of their civilians.
when governments refuse to pay terrorists to save the lives of their civilians, they effectively turn their civilians against them.
Kinesis

Pro

Thank you for posting such an interesting topic. I will argue for my case, then attempt to refute my opponent's.

First, arguments in favour of the motion;

-- The payment of ransom rewards criminal activity --

Paying the ransom rewards the criminal for their criminal activity, and brings about their desired conclusion. It also brings an end to a risky situation for them; part of the ransom demand is often safe passage away from the authorities, greatly increasing their chances of escape. Furthermore, in places where the police force is inadequate, making it virtually certain that they would be paid would make the problem worse.

-- The payment of ransom feeds more ransom and increases crime --

Ransoming is often conducted by organised criminal networks. Paying the ransom funds these organisations, increasing the capability of them to perform even more ransoms, as well a other crimes, in the future.

-- There are other options --

Police forces are trained in hostage and ransom situations, and may well be able to either find a way to resolve the situation peacefully, or to take down the kidnapper without risk to the hostages. Furthermore, there is no guarantee that the kidnappers will release the hostage once paid. They may simply increase the price to squeeze more money out, or raise other demands. They may even kill the prisoner anyway, for fear they would identify them later on.

Now, my opponents case;

'This motion won't stop people paying'

This is just an assertion. When something is made illegal, it puts a barrier against it not only through the law, but in people's minds as well. It would make people far more likely to call the police instead of just giving in to the kidnapper's commands.

'human sacrifice is not a morally acceptable way of fighting kidnapping'

Firstly, it wouldn't necessarily be human sacrifice- the police are, after all, trained to bring an end to these situations peacefully. Secondly, it would cut down criminal activity, in the long run saving more lives than it sacrifices.

'when governments refuse to pay terrorists to save the lives of their civilians, they effectively turn their civilians against them'

In order to prevent crime and promote a healthier society, sometimes tough decisions have to be made. If that includes gaining the resentment of the citizenry, then so be it.
Debate Round No. 1
bozzyraven

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bozzyraven forfeited this round.
Kinesis

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For unknown reasons, my opponent has decided to forfeit this round. Arguments carry on to the next.
Debate Round No. 2
bozzyraven

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bozzyraven forfeited this round.
Kinesis

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Well, this was a disappointment. Vote Pro if you think pointless debates suck.
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Posted by Kinesis 7 years ago
Kinesis
Thanks.
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
Disappointing but not unexpected. Default to Pro due to forfeits.
Posted by Maikuru 7 years ago
Maikuru
This is an interesting topic. I hope it remains forfeit-free.
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Vote Placed by Korashk 7 years ago
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