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worldablazed
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Toxifrost
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We should do more to preserve endangered species on the brink of extinction.

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Toxifrost
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/14/2015 Category: Society
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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worldablazed

Pro

This is a hard debate for the con side. If you decide to take up the challenge, leave a note as your first argument saying something like I'll participate in this debate or something and we'll start arguments on the second round.
Toxifrost

Con

I accept this debate challenge and am looking forward to a constructive debate.
Debate Round No. 1
worldablazed

Pro

Hello Toxifrost, I look forward to a rewarding debate with you.
As the first speaker in this debate, I would like to define the topic as: we should take more measures to preserve endangered species, e.g. the giant panda and the black rhino from being extinct.

Moving on, my first argument will be that the carefully-balanced ecosystem will be mutilated beyond repair should several species of animals become extinct. The ecosystem, developed slowly over ons of years, is almost like a china tea set in its fragileness. And even more incredibly, the ecosystem depends on every single species of animals to function smoothly, no matter how trivial a certain species of animals may seem.

For example, the grey wolf was the tertiary consumer at Yellow Stone National Park. When it disappeared, the elk population all but exploded and so did their demand for food. They ate over 35% of the willows in Yellow Stone National Park and without willow branches, beavers couldn't make dams and the beaber population decimated. Hunters were hired to shoot the elks but some of them also shot sea otters for their skin, therefore causing a decrease in the number of sea otters.

And that was just in Yellow Stone National Park. Imagine if certain species of animals disappeared from the world altogether. Imagine what would happen then. We should do more to preserve animals from extinction.
Toxifrost

Con

Since you are the one making the positive claim here I really have to do no more than refute what you say. In this case, this is simple.

Ecosystems and Adaptations
While your anecdote on Yellowstone may or may not be true as you did not cite it and as I have looked everywhere for the truth in this and have found none, there are still glaring problems with your arguement. The statement that "the carefully-balanced ecosystem will be mutilated beyond repair should several species of animals become extinct" is just misled. Ecosystems adapt and change to fit new pressures that they come accross, on a special level this is what we call natural selection. Let's say that Panda's were to become extinct. Well since they really have no predators none of the upper levels of the food chain would really be effected. However since Panda's eat huge amounts of bamboo if they were to disappear the amount of bamboo would rise however with humans knowing that there would really be no need to cut back on the harvesting of bamboo now that it's primary consumer was gone human consumption would most likely balance that out. But that of course is only one example. No ecosystem would ever be mutilated beyond repair if one or two species goes extinct, the species within the ecosystem would simply have to adapt to this change in the food chain.

Yellowstone
I'd like to actually adress the statements in your anecdote directly however. Now while the Beaver population may have decreased in result to the lack of predators for the Elk (Which we still haven't established has actually ever happened.) this actually is not THAT bad of a thing. See the beavers couldn't make dams because of the lack of a certain type of tree, or so you state, but over the next many generations the beavers would have adapted and learned to build dams using over types of wood and other materials. Again this just goes back to my point about ecosystems adapting and changing.

Essentially your argument lies on a false premise and some uncited anecdotes. Not too great material for a debate but I digress. Species are meant to die out. That's just the circle of life. Trying to preserve a species past it's prime is just a fools errand as eventually, every beings time comes to an end.

http://www.yellowstonenationalpark.com...
https://www.worldwildlife.org...
https://www.worldwildlife.org...
http://www.unccd.int...
Debate Round No. 2
worldablazed

Pro

worldablazed forfeited this round.
Toxifrost

Con

I extend my arguments to this round.
Debate Round No. 3
worldablazed

Pro

worldablazed forfeited this round.
Toxifrost

Con

Pro has forfeited. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 4
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by Varrack 2 years ago
Varrack
If you could promise not to forfeit, since many new users tend to forfeit their debates, then that would be nice too.
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Vote Placed by 9spaceking 2 years ago
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