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righty10294
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d4l
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We should got to War with Iran

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Started: 1/16/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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righty10294

Pro

Hello

I've become interested in this topic since the most recent boat incident last week. Clearly Iran has been testing us to see what we're capable of.

Reasons to go to war-

1)Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (President of Iran) wants to kill Israelis/Jewish.
How do the Israelis feel about this. He said in a speech "Death to Israel" What does the threat he pose to that country. It is one of our biggest ally and we should make sure that they are safe. Also, he called the Holocaust a "myth". We all no that this is untrue. Who says that he won't start another Holocaust to kill the Jewish again.

2)He has testes the US and UK.
Many people aren't taking this most recent "attack" on The US Navy serious. The speed boats surrounded the fleet and said we'll blow up. The group of people on the speed boats were believed to be apart of the Revoultoinary Guard, which is a UN labeled terrorist group. The Iranian government said that they were only identifying the ships. IT was more of a threat rather than just identifying who they were. The ships by UN law are allowed to past threw the territory they were in, so Iran was out of its waters. Also, another incident came out that in December of '07 a Iranian boat was approaching a US warship, and when the ship fired off warning shots, it retreated.
Many people have forgotten about the 2007 incident, where the Iranian took 15 hostages of the Royal Navy. The sailors were aboard the HMS Cornwall. Iran's government said that they were in Iranian waters, but they were proved to be in Iraqi waters. Iran knew this too. Then after it was proved that they were in Iraqi waters, they released them without a statement. They got scared.
Also, there was another incident in 2004 when IRan seized 8 royal sailors. THey were again in Iraqi waters, but Iran doesn't believe that.

3)The threat of nuclear bombs
Although there is no proof, Iran says they don't have nuclear bombs. They are trying though. In an interview with 60 minutes in 2006, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, couldn't answer the question "do you have nuclear bombs". He was stumbling and going off topic. Also, when there are anti-aircraft artillery guarding your one of your nuclear facility, that's a little strange (http://en.wikipedia.org... click here to see). I live next to a nuclear powerplant, and there are no guns of this kinds. Once in while there will be a lone guy watching cars. If they were to get a hold of a nuclear bomb, it my not be able to reach the US, but what about if they sold it to a terrorist to smuggle it in, or they bomb Bagdahd where our soldiers are. It is dangerous.

My last point is, if we invaded Iran, took over the government, and made it a constitutional republic, we would have a leader of that country who is friendly with us, and try to bring the gas prices down.
d4l

Con

We shouldnt go to war with iran have you ever stopped to think and asked the u.s citizens never have anyone asked but why should we got to war so more souders could die and families get deppressed no thats why we should keep peace with iran and stay away from trouble and peace will spread through out the world president bush is not doing anything but showing the world that war is bad for you.
Debate Round No. 1
righty10294

Pro

Hello

Fist off, your argument was 1 run on sentence, and you just say theories. FOr your next argument please use facts instead of theory.

"have you ever stopped to think and asked the u.s citizens"
Alright- 1)I'm a US citizen, so don't use it as a third person
2)I know plenty of people that agree with me on this issue. Infact, there are a good amount of people on this site that support the war.

"more souders could die and families get deppressed"

That's life. Everyone will die someday, it's just life. And the families would be sad at first, but after a while they will feel proud that there son or daughter died protecting our great nation.

"president bush is not doing anything but showing the world that war is bad for you."

1)War isn't bad, lets look at our wars
Revolutionary War- We won our freedom, we would never been here without it
War of 1812- Increased industrialism, patriotism, and finished of the "red coats"
Civil War- Hmm, brought our nation back together and ended this thing called slavery
WWII-ended nazism, and kept the Jewish safe from concentration camps
War on Terror- This will end Terrorism, and Iran is the next step.

2)President Bush never started the war, terrorist did, so don't make a case that he caused everything.

Please use facts, punctuation, and spell check before you submit your next argument.
d4l

Con

d4l forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
righty10294

Pro

d4l,

Don't put out a terrible argument, then forfeit your next round.

Just to remind what my points are-
1)Protection of Israel (which might have nukes.)
2)they tested us
3)nuclear bomb threat

sorry about missed word. Spell checked didn't get that
d4l

Con

d4l forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
righty10294

Pro

My oppenent doesn't appear to be coming back, so just speeding up the process till voting now

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d4l

Con

d4l forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
righty10294

Pro

My oppenent doesn't appear to be coming back, so just speeding up the process till voting now

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d4l

Con

d4l forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Rousseau 9 years ago
Rousseau
"Don't put out a terrible argument, then forfeit your next round."

Shouldn't have said that...
Posted by MYTN 9 years ago
MYTN
Three of us have senses of humor?
Posted by righty10294 9 years ago
righty10294
OKay, this might sound like I'm full of my self, but how does she get 3 vites, when her only argument is a long-run-on sentence, with no facts??? Bias voting at its best
Posted by blond_guy 9 years ago
blond_guy
I also advise you to rethink your stand on abortion
You claim to be in favor of late term abortion but not early term abortion... May I say... awkward?
Posted by blond_guy 9 years ago
blond_guy
d4l, i advise you to get more informed
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
The straight of hormuz is a horrible reason to start a war. Because...

-Have you actually heard the tape it's like "You will explode after 2 minutes". Th version they have is very different, also. I severely doubt that that is real. It was probably faked.

-go to war over the actions of some regular civilians out in a regular civilian boat (NOT a war boat)? That's ridicilous.
Posted by righty10294 9 years ago
righty10294
mytn- if you want to debate this topic, challenge me I will accept.
Posted by MYTN 9 years ago
MYTN
Challenge me to this debate. I'm on the opposite spectrum of you and think I'll hold well.
Posted by Jlconservative 9 years ago
Jlconservative
your 100% correct righty we should absolutely go to war with Iran
Posted by hattopic 9 years ago
hattopic
If only I could've taken this debate....
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