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We will never know if there is a real God of the universe.

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Started: 9/24/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Usuallyunique

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The solar system is dated to 4.5 billions years, but the Big Bang is around 13. The implication is that we cannot assume we are the only life developing system and thus other planetary systems could have development lead times on the order of millions or billions of years.
Much like the South American Empires who encountered the relatively advanced European(by really a small margin or no real margin at all depending on disposition) conquistadors, we could easily confuse advance alien technology with qualities or capabilities we deem solely the realm of a god.
joshyi1213

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We can see all the things around us. It can be seen that a supreme power made all this. And if the earth is just 1 mm closer to the sun, we'd burn up, and same goes for all the planets. Science cannot explain such a "coincidence" God is the one who made all this, and he is in the universe.
Debate Round No. 1
Usuallyunique

Pro

When explorers first entered the rugged inland highlands of Papua New Guinea and met the indigenous inhabitants for the first time, they assumed that these individuals were "Gods." It took a long time for them to finally figure out after prolong exposures with white men that were just humans like them. Watch the "first contact videos" on YouTube depicting the New Guineans marvel at a simple pocket mirror, thinking it is some sort of sorcery.
It does not take a leap of the imagination that considering how little we know of the galaxy, let alone the whole universe, that we really have no basis to intelligently declare certain abilities or technologies the realm of a God(s). Perhaps the New Guineans could declare the person possessing the mirror a God.
Likewise, any beings capable of traveling immense distances and visiting us here would have simply stunning capabilities that would be akin to showing a mirror to a man who has never clearly seen his own reflection. An alien could assert that he/she is the God of the bible and demonstrate awesome powers to us that are mundane from the aliens' perspective. There won't be someone who has travelled the universe and seen it all, because you can't.
I'm not saying our life here on Earth isn't remarkable or special, but like all things it must be put in context in the bigger picture.
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Debate Round No. 2
Usuallyunique

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Juan_Pablo 3 years ago
Juan_Pablo
Joshy, the Earth inhabits a special zone around the sun where biological life can develop and exist, but the Earth drifts to and away from the sun by 5,000,000 kilometers on its eccentric orbit every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org...

The Earth's inhabitable zone is far wider than the 1 mm you indicate.
Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
If we drift 1mm closer to the Sun we'd burn up.
1mm from where, we are on an elliptical orbit, we drift in and out 3.5 million miles from the Sun in a single year. Even another 1000 miles would make little difference. Since we average around 93 million miles from the Sun.
I don't know where you get your information from.
Certainly not from any knowledge of reality.
More likely from a Creationist site, which is really just junk for dumb people.
Creationists know nothing about real science.
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