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dbershevits
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liberalconservative
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Welfare should exist!

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/16/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,385 times Debate No: 4066
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dbershevits

Pro

Let me begin by stating the definition of Welfare.

Financial or other aid provided, especially by the government, to people in need.

- www.answers.com

That being said, why should we refuse to help the very people who come to America for freedom and a good lifestyle. They vote for president too, so why should be left in the dirt while we stay rich and happy. If you remember a certain document that states this?

I present the declaration of independence!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

- http://www.ushistory.org...

Now i let my opponent take the floor.
liberalconservative

Con

im not sure what to put here because i think it should exist too not much of a debate..........................................................................................................................................................................................
Debate Round No. 1
dbershevits

Pro

Yet, you told me that the goverment should abolish lomg-term wefare because you said it leads to people forgeting about jobs.
liberalconservative

Con

but i dont think it should be completely abolished like your statement says
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Debate Round No. 2
dbershevits

Pro

Yes, but you do admit that welfare produced lazy people in the long-run.

I suggest that welfare, should be more monitored and maintained so people who have given up are given pep talks and send to a new world, so to speak.
liberalconservative

Con

pep talks and reduction can be screamed at peeps as much as you want but it wont do anything expect raise the stock prices of pain pills and no, not everyone benefits from welfare, my stepmother worked 16 years at a mortgage company it nosed dived because the government made sure they couldn't have rational thought(anti discrimination laws)it made them lend irresponsibly killing the market leading to the foreclosure disaster right now. she wanted to get welfare that she'd payed into for 16 years but no they decided that we owned a house, two cars, and had $30000 in me and my 3 brothers college fund all together so they didn't help us, finally after three more months my step mom took the state to court we where about to finally get help when we won the case when my mom worked at a bank for one day, the manager tried to seduce her first day so she quit. due to that one day of work she has never received welfare. she has been out of work for 8 months, this all comes to my point welfare is a good thing but it should help people that are either migrating or have worked hard for years. all politicians agree we should try to expand our middle class because all great civilizations greeks, romans ,britians all had giant middle classes. when politicians decide to give out welfare like a parents with no back bone quieting children with money and give the rich(politicians) tax breaks it kills the middle class. welfare is killing america and capitalism.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by HandsOff 8 years ago
HandsOff
you accepted to debate a relolution with which you agree. if challenged, you should have selected the decline box.
Posted by liberalconservative 8 years ago
liberalconservative
how did i lose this though i disagreed with the stance forced upon me i obviously did a better job arguing the point i had to than him. this just proves again that people on debate.org dont read they just quickly decide what they think of the topic.
Posted by HandsOff 8 years ago
HandsOff
If the majority believe welfare should exists, then private charity should be able to handle it. If there is overwhelming support for charity, it need not be implemented by government-- private individuals will contribute voluntarily. Besides, private charity is much more efficient than government, so more money would get to the intended recipient.
Posted by dbershevits 8 years ago
dbershevits
no class with computers dude?
Posted by liberalconservative 8 years ago
liberalconservative
allright, hey i just wanted to say that you know you can get onto debate.org at school right?
Posted by dbershevits 8 years ago
dbershevits
I think we should do a different topic, lets to drug legalization...send me the challenge.
Posted by liberalconservative 8 years ago
liberalconservative
"You are not truly free until you are free to fail."-Abraham Lincoln
Posted by liberalconservative 8 years ago
liberalconservative
dennis i think we should redo this debate we need to change the topic, you take the pro and make the title something like; Welfare is fine at its current state. that sound good, comment back im actually typing this during channel one in thompsons class.
Posted by dbershevits 8 years ago
dbershevits
sure, lets go.

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Posted by tremendoustie 8 years ago
tremendoustie
Or she of course, sorry about that

*typing extra characters now so it will accept my comment ...
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