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laurenelainee
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Korashk
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What do you think of this quote? "A womans place belongs in the kitchen."

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Started: 3/14/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Voting Period
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laurenelainee

Con

This quote is probably the most sexist quote I've ever seen. I'm not exactly sure who came up with this quote & why, but I am appualled. Not only do I disagree with this quote I loathe this quote.

Analogy 1: How do you explain all the man chefs in the world? Are men going to be considered badly because they think their place is in the kitchen? What about all the independent woman in the world who are in the business offices right at this moment, are there places at the office?
Korashk

Pro

My opponent claims that the quote in the resolution is a sexist one. I do not see any sexism at all. This is because I am unaware of what a 'womans place' is or where it would belong.

The quote may not be very coherent but I see no reason that a person would be in the wrong to say it. I therefore stand in affirmation that the phrase, "A womans place belongs in the kitchen." would be perfectly fine to say and is unoffensive.
Debate Round No. 1
laurenelainee

Con

This quote is being very sterotypical on woman. It's saying where a woman should be & where they should go. How about I tell a man "a man belongs in a toolshed" some men would get offended by that. It's like your putting them in a place where they dont' belong!
Korashk

Pro

This quote is not sexist at all. You say that it is the most sexist quote that you have ever heard, after I disect the quote I will provide some that I consider to actually be sexist.

*First word, 'a,' in the quote's context meaning a singular object.
*The phrase, 'womans place,' first off it utilizes a misspelling of the plural form of the word 'woman' or it forgets the apostrophe after the letter 'n' to make the word possessive. In the corrected forms it referes to either the place that belongs to a woman, or a place for woman, both places are transformed to objects by the use of the word 'a,' even though places are typically not objects.
*Fourth word, 'belongs,' as in the place where an object or idea is meant to go.
*Phrase, 'in the kitchen,' indicates where said object referred to as 'womans place' is intended to go.

This quote still doesn't sound sexist, mainly because it doesn't really make any sense. Here are some quotes that are actually sexist towards women:

"Why don't you go make my another sandwich and grab me a beer. That's all you're good for anyways."
Said from a man to a woman.

"I wonder what fish smelled liked before women went swimming?"
Said about women in general by a man.

"Unless you make a million dollars a year, you must completely ignore and demean a woman to gain her affection. If you completely disregard her existence, she'll die for you."
Said about women by a man.

"I'm not sure I understand the problem. Perhaps you forgotten to scrub the toilets, wash his favorite bowling shirt, or do any of your other womanly duties."
Said to a woman after she complains about something.
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I am sure that these quotes illustrate what true sexism sounds like.
Debate Round No. 2
laurenelainee

Con

I am in middle school right now not in high school,college, or older. You need to stop dissecting my sentences and start focusing on my points & arguments. You know what I've noticed, that you only focus on one point of my argument. You focus on one thing, you need to start looking at what else the opponent is saying. Yes, I understand that I said it's the most sexist quote I've ever heard, & yes I said women's. Big deal, this debate needs to start focusing on the points, not the grammar. I understand that people will penalize me for incorrect grammar, but I'm getting the point across. I said it was the most sexist quote I'VE ever heard, does that mean I've heard all the quotes in the world that are sexist towards women? No, it does not, I'm stating something I have heard not you.
Korashk

Pro

According to your profile as of 2:10 PM EST you are 19 years old which makes your comment about being in middle school or your age a falsehood [1].

The resolution of the debate is "What do you think of this quote? 'A womans place belongs in the kitchen.'" I have stated what I _think_ of the quote and I _think_ that it is not sexist because of the reasons provided in previous rounds. You do think that it is sexist and are interpreting that sexism from a similar quote that reads in many ways, such as:

"A woman's place is in the kitchen."
"Women belong in the kitchen."

Those quotes are sexist, and you claim that whatever quote you have in your head is "probably the most sexist quote I've ever seen." In my round two response I provide multiple quotes that I believe are much, much more offensive and sexist than the quote you are thinking of. It is now not an unreasonable claim to make when I say that you have now seen the quotes that I have posted. Making them, at least from my viewpoint, the most sexist quotes that you have ever seen. It is up to the voters to decide whether or not this is the case.

I believe that I have successfully negated this confusing resolution and urge a Pro vote.

[1] http://i42.tinypic.com...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Delcano 4 years ago
Delcano
Y R woman startin dbate nd not kookin dinner?
Posted by tBoonePickens 4 years ago
tBoonePickens
"Had of voted" hehehe!
Posted by dollydo 4 years ago
dollydo
I believe the voting to be skewed. How can the votes be Con 10 to Pro 89? There is no way! Both Con and Pro's claims were a matter of opinion. If I had of voted, I would have given them a tie, in regards to conviction. If I had of voted, I would have voted laurenelainee, in regards to conduct. Korashk used semantics throughout the debate, without tackling the real question at hand. In the final debate, laurenelainee, used this debate round to emphasize her frustrations towards her component. Although not the best tactic to win a debate, understandable, since she is fairly new to the site, and not yet debate savvy as some may be. Keep going laurenelainee! I will look forward to reading future debates from you!
Posted by Sorrow 4 years ago
Sorrow
Voted for laurenelainee as having the most reliable source. Women would know.
Posted by CommanderTaco 4 years ago
CommanderTaco
Sorry couldn't resist.
Posted by RoyLatham 4 years ago
RoyLatham
Homophones are not truly equal because they do not have the right to marry.
Posted by tBoonePickens 4 years ago
tBoonePickens
How about to too?
Posted by Korashk 4 years ago
Korashk
Ya, that one is weird because the apostraphe + s is the contraction and the 'its' is the possessive.
Posted by tBoonePickens 4 years ago
tBoonePickens
Agree. It's just like its vs it's. Drives me nuts. Though I can see it more easy to confuse its & it's.
Posted by Korashk 4 years ago
Korashk
Not really that angry, I'm just reacting for comedic effect. In all reality though misuse of homophones just sets something off inside of my head, it's kind of like the anxiety that a person with OCD gets when they don't do their compulsion. Though, I hesitate to call the reaction a type of OCD.
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