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What if black holes...

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Started: 12/24/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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IAmPeace

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What if black holes, don't actually pull everything in. But instead it tears everything apart into atoms or maybe even smaller considering on how immense the gravity of a black hole is. The black hole would tear the atom 1 by 1 until it is so small you cannot see it, at all! As the black hole dies out it spews out a great amount of energy. This energy could be particles surrounding the black hole, and because the black hole is so hot it heats up the particles and blast them into space. Think about it when objects such as asteroids get close to planets they get shredded up forming a ring around the planet. When a star dies out it dies by collapsing on itself. This is caused by the immense GRAVITY possible making the sun or what's left of it teleporting to whatever opposite to it. The reason I think this is because when it collapses on itself it disappears than the size of it is in the negatives therefore teleporting it? It sounds like a sketchy idea but, you get the point. Than in turns into a black hole depending on the size of the sun, going back to gravity it pulls objects in it doesn't suck up objects, its gravity tearing particles into pieces. It pulls it in so fast it tears the object into atoms shredding into atoms than atoms infinitely tearing apart the object. Wait, that just made me think of something if it infinitely tears into pieces than, a black hole doesn't make stuff disappear , but it probably just tears apart objects infinitely making it so we cant see it, the particles could still be there just very very small. Until it finally spews everything it ate out unable to tear apart the pieces. This might all seem sketchy but then again im only 13..
the_banjo_sender

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You said this wasn't a debate, but as this is a debate website... perhaps you should have considered the implications. So I'm taking you on. Deal with it.

In all actuality, you are not that far from the truth. Black Holes do compress bits of matter into minuscule proportions. However, they do not in any way tear things apart, at least, not fully. Black Holes squeeze every amount of mass an object possesses and makes it fit into a smaller area, increasing density, not lowering it, as tearing apart matter would.

Your hypothesis is not a terrible one. You clearly have thought about it and given it great contemplation. However, from what science can tell, Black Holes are not very big, perhaps the size of the Earth. Considering the mass of our sun (which is far to small to ever become a Black Hole) is 333,000 times as large as the mass of Earth, density must be increased, not decreased.

Besides, a tear requires two sets of forces, acting in relative opposite directions, each being about as strong as the other. So, conceivably, if two Black Holes somehow were pulling on the same object, your hypothesis would make far more sense.

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Debate Round No. 1
IAmPeace

Con

You dont need 2 sets of force to tear apart an object, according to http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu...- you do not need 2 forces to tear objects apart. It states that "Saturn's rings probably formed when objects like comets, asteroids, or even moons broke up in orbit around Saturn due to Saturn's very strong gravity. The pieces of these objects kept colliding with each other and broke into even smaller pieces. These pieces gradually spread around Saturn to form its rings. The rings are thought to be short-lived compared to the age of the Solar System, meaning that if we lived at a very different time, we may not have seen rings around Saturn." which doesnt make my theory entirely wrong.
the_banjo_sender

Pro

Brilliant! What does Saturn have to do with anything, any way? Yes, things broke up. This was a collision scenario, and the gravity had nothing to do with the disintegration of the given commit, asteroid, or spare TARDIS.

I do hope you don't mind, but since your comments seemed to me like extensions of your case, I would like to address them. Thank you and your welcome.

Firstly, There is no video footage of black holes imbibing things. Probably because black holes, as of now, are not even scientific observations. This is to say, they do not exist, at least not necessarily.

Also, dimensions have very little to do with anything wibly-wobly-timey-wimey-spacey-wacey. Humans live in all of the dimensions, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Time, Dimension, all of them. Sure, we cannot influence the latter two with the precision that we can the first 3, but we still exist. Also, the 6th Dimension is not... whatever it was... you were trying to... convey... it... as.
Hmm.

Anyhoo, cheerio!

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Debate Round No. 2
IAmPeace

Con

IAmPeace forfeited this round.
the_banjo_sender

Pro

I have nothing else to say until you provide arguments, seeing as I do believe I have sufficiently argued my side.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by the_banjo_sender 1 year ago
the_banjo_sender
Jolly good, dear sir, jolly good!
Posted by IAmPeace 1 year ago
IAmPeace
The density of a black hole will decrease in physical size, this is because of are 3 dimensional world cannoy house 2 things in the same spot, atleast physically, a black hole pulls in objects but where does it go? In the black hole the answer is yes, kinda. Remember going back to what i said you cannoy house 2 things in the aame spot. This is where the 6th dimensional world comes imto play. This dimension is made of of 3 dimensional measurements and 3 dimensional momentum. The more the black hole pulls in the smaller it gets and the bigger the momentum. In the 6th dimension you can house 2 things in the same place but not with momentum.
Posted by IAmPeace 1 year ago
IAmPeace
Also it would have to tear the object apart. Many videos represent black holes sucking up peices of the sun for example. You'd have to tear into into little buts in order to fit such a large amount of mass in such a small space.
Posted by IAmPeace 1 year ago
IAmPeace
Yes our sun is way too small to become a blackhole but if we were to swap it with a blackhole it would be the same size.
Posted by IAmPeace 1 year ago
IAmPeace
this is not actually a debate i just wanted to point something out
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