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sirdebatesalot
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wingnut2280
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What is Religon?

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Started: 1/19/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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sirdebatesalot

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Religion is many people of their own community beliving in a higher power. There are many other religions besides the more commonly heard of ones, but they usually involve strange rituals, and can sometimes result into turning into a cult.
wingnut2280

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I;m not sure of your claim, so if you could clarify that would be great. I will attack your definition in its stead.

I'm not going to cite dictionary definitions because they aren't always reflective of what something really is.

Lets look at the conditions of your definition.

1) Many people

This is not what a religion is. One person can practice a religion, independent of anyone else.

2) Of their own community

Christianity, as well as other religions, spans the entire globe. People from Japan to Nebraska can practice the same religion, taking 'religion' beyond someones own community.

3) Belief in a higher power

One word, Atheism. There are several religions that don't believe in higher powers. Atheism is just one of the most well-known.

You last sentence just seems to be your view of world-wide religions. You seem like your bordering on religious intolerance a little. This is kind of a bad generalization to slap on religions that people are not familiar with.

Anyway, your three criterium are not exhaustive and have numerous counter-examples. At the very least, I think we can say your definition is inaccurate.
Debate Round No. 1
sirdebatesalot

Pro

Ok

To be known on a world-wide scale as a religion, you must have many followers. Right now I could say that I am going to practice Xboxeism. Ok it is a religion. No it isn't.

Next

When I say a community, I mean a group of people. It does not mean a community such as the one you live in.

I don't know if Athesim could be considered a religon persay. I think that they belive in a higher power though. The Devil.

You were correct about my last statement though.

Anyways, your counter-examples had some flaws that you obviously did not see.
wingnut2280

Con

Your definition is still inaccurate, even under your own pretexts and the ones I listed earlier.

A religion can be practiced independently. Maybe Xboxeism seems like an extreme example, but it is possible to practice independent forms of Christianity for example. There is even a box on census forms that says non-denominational. How many people does it take then? Are the three people in the cult a religion? No? What about three million? My point here is that your terminology is unclear. How many is 'many'? Even if you did provide me with an answer, one person CAN practice his/her own religion, making your definition terminally incorrect.

Even if we accept your definition of community, my above point disproves this as well.

Atheism and religions that don't acknowledge a higher power are still religions. Atheists don't believe in the devil. Atheism is the only thing I need to prove exists to ensure that your definition is incorrect.

I don't need all of my counter-examples to be true in order to prove that your definition isn't accurate. The definition you provide is ambiguous with words like 'community' and 'many' and has glaring ommissions and counter-examples, as I pointed out above. Again, not all of my arguments need to be true. Only one of them would make your definition incomplete or inaccurate.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
sirdebatesalot, maybe you shouldn't debate so much, you're not very good at being objective.

Athiest worship Satan??? What?

I wouldn't consider atheism a religion. How about almost every indiginous religion? None of them have gods.

Last semester I took a class on religion and none of your definitions..well, define religion.
Posted by baker27b 9 years ago
baker27b
You make a statement then you debate whether the statement should be or shouldn't be/ is or isn't. That is why there is pro and con.

Your title should be: Religion is (what you are arguing it is).
Posted by Knologistprime 9 years ago
Knologistprime
Religion is the habits or practices that an individual lives according to what they knowingly or unknowingly do.

Prime focus in existence.

Example: Sports fanatics, politics, consumerism, pleasures, and all ideologies.

Actions in harmony with the desire/thoughts.

What one puts first in their life, becomes their belief/religion.
Posted by sirdebatesalot 9 years ago
sirdebatesalot
Uhm

You have a belif, they have a belif, you debate over who is correct

WOW
Posted by baker27b 9 years ago
baker27b
How can you debate a question?
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