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Bull_Diesel
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What is the worst color?

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Bull_Diesel
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/16/2013 Category: Arts
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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poe

Con

Black is the absence of color, so it is the worst.
Bull_Diesel

Pro

I accept your debate. Although I'm not sure why, it seems pretty trolly.


Since you have set no rules or guidelines for the debate I will assume that you have made your full argument in stating that "Black is the absence of all color, so it is the worst."

That's fine.

Here's the thing though:

Black isn't the absence of all color, it is the amalgam of all color. Using your logic, which I reluctantly will do for the purposes of ending this debate quickly, White is actually the absence of all color, ergo it is 'the worst color'.

"The Worst Color" is an almost entirely subjective designation. Not scientifically definable characteristic based on your non-existent criteria.

I have beaten you in the first round of your own debate.

All arguments extended to the end of debate.

Bull_Diesel out.
Debate Round No. 1
poe

Con

poe forfeited this round.
Bull_Diesel

Pro

I pretty much expected my opponent to forfeit based on the less than serious nature of this debate and the pretty empty statement my opponent made as his initial argument.

I extend my argument that using his own logic I have defeated my opponent, but to avoid 'playing down' to his level, I'll add a little something for those who may be following this debate.




Let's start by dissecting the resolution.

Color
col·or [kuhl-er]
noun
-the quality of an object or substance with respect to light reflected by the object,
usually determined visually by measurement of hue, saturation,
and brightness of the reflected light; saturation orchroma; hue.

[1]

Best
[best]
adjective
1.
of the highest quality, excellence, or standing: the best work; the best students.
2.
most advantageous, suitable, or desirable: the best way.
[2]

Worst
[wurst]
adjective
1.
bad or ill in the highest, greatest, or most extreme degree: the worst person.
2.
most faulty, unsatisfactory, or objectionable: the worst paper submitted.
3.
most unfavorable or injurious.
4.
in the poorest condition: the worst house on the block.
5.
most unpleasant, unattractive, or disagreeable: the worst personality I've ever known.
[3]


The above definitions are posted to help in the following dissection of the 'resolution'.

What is the worst color?

My opponent asks me to define which color (or reflected light) is the worst.
Pro names Black as the worst color based on either the definition most faulty, unsatisfactory, or objectionable or in the poorest condition. Based on this statement and his definition of worst, I posit that he is reffering to subtractive color composition which deals in light reflected by an object (as per definition of color).

"SUBTRACTIVE COLOR.
When we mix colors using paint, or through the printing process, we are using the subtractive color method. Subtractive color mixing means that one begins with white and ends with black; as one adds color, the result gets darker and tends to black."
[4]

There are two ways to Subtractive colors are when a material absorbs colors. This is how pigments like crayons, inks and paints work. A red pigment is a material that absorbs all colors but red, The red light is reflected and the viewer sees red. likewise a blue pigment is a material that absorbs all colors except blue. When you mix pigments you get a material that absorbs more colors and will appear darker than the pigments you mixed. Put enough of the right pigments into something and it will appear to be black as it absorbs all colors. Thus a pigment subtracts colors from the reflected light.

By my opponent's definition and the inference that he is referring to Subtractive Color composition, he is incorrect in stating that Black is the absence of all color, and is thus incorrect in his resolution.

I have defeated my opponent. All arguments extended. Vote Con


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Debate Round No. 2
poe

Con

poe forfeited this round.
Bull_Diesel

Pro

What do you know?
Go Go Gadget Forfeit.

Extended.

Vote Bull_Diesel
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Bull_Diesel 4 years ago
Bull_Diesel
He didn't say what's the best light out there. He said: 'What is the worst color?

There is basically no basis to judge a "worst color"

If he elects to respond, I'll treat the debate just as seriously as my opponent wants to.
Posted by Bull_Diesel 4 years ago
Bull_Diesel
And yes, Subtractive colors are when a material absorbs colors. This is how pigments like crayons, inks and paints work. A red pigment is a material that absorbs all colors but red, The red light is reflected and the viewer sees red. likewise a blue pigment is a material that absorbs all colors except blue. When you mix pigments you get a material that absorbs more colors and will appear darker than the pigments you mixed. Put enough of the right pigments into something and it will appear to be black as it absorbs all colors. Thus a pigment subtracts colors from the reflected light.

Kindly don't make me argue this whole debate in the comments. If you wanted to take the debate you had just as much opportunity as I had.
Posted by Bull_Diesel 4 years ago
Bull_Diesel
What kind of a statement is that?
I don't have any idea what the other guy's intelligence level might be but I can tell you I'm not very likely to attack a person's intelligence without checking to make sure I haven't made a major grammatical failure.
Posted by GarretKadeDupre 4 years ago
GarretKadeDupre
Lmao, this is the modern version of putting 2 retards in the Colosseum and watching them duel it out. Too bad neither are smart enough to defeat their opponent.
Posted by MaestroEvans 4 years ago
MaestroEvans
"Black isn't the absence of all color, it is the amalgam of all color...White is actually the absence of all color."

Really?
Posted by Bull_Diesel 4 years ago
Bull_Diesel
I'm not a proud man. I'll take it.
Posted by Bull_Diesel 4 years ago
Bull_Diesel
haha :)
Posted by wolfman4711 4 years ago
wolfman4711
Poe is obviously a child.
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Vote Placed by GarretKadeDupre 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con conceded.
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Reasons for voting decision: F.F.