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What political party has anarchists, Communists, rioters, as backers of its political agenda

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Started: 1/13/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 12 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Lookingatissues

Pro

What political party has anarchists, Communists, rioters, as backers of its political agenda
anarchist ," a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom. "
The democrat party has become a party who's members have defined what the party stands for and its not a party that believes in law and order nor in a a civil society. No, the democrat party members believe that the ballots of the voters shouldn't be the final determiner of who our representatives are or which political party should be in the oval Office but that choice should be made by rioters and Anarchists in the streets of our cities. These anarchists would decide, by their tactics of looting and burning of property, the rightness of the election results and whether these election results are to be accepted as legitimate or not. This last election in which The democrat party canidate, Hillary Clinton, lost to the republican candidate, Ronald Trump, has proven just how much respect the democrat party members have for the results of an election and the voters choice. Now the democrat party and its infamous anarchist members have enlisted the rioters to disrupt and stop the inauguration of Donald Trump in any way that they can. This inauguration will be a test to see if the voters and the ballot box still determines the peoples selection for president or will the anarchists rioting in the streets overrule the rest of America's voters.
tumeric

Con

The democratic party, at present, represents an America of civil society, a trustworthy marketplace, and civil rights. Meanwhile, the republicans have become an unhinged stomping ground of un-American grievance, anarchy, and authoritarianism. How can a party be both anarchistic and authoritarian at the same time? By systematically destroying the idea that facts exist. By electing a man who claims that he didn't say things that are recorded on video. By doing so, republicans are attempting to erase accountability, because they trust that the net aggregate of uninformed personal opinion will land on their side. Mob rule with the force of law. Who goes around talking about "second amendment remedies?" Who goes around claiming that the second amendment is some kind of kill switch for democratic governance?

Democrats respect voter opinion because we believe that a plurality of voters should decide an election. Not the guy who got 3 million fewer votes than Clinton. We don't rely on arcane accidents of history, such as the electoral college, which Pro cannot even explain the legitimacy of, to "win" an election.
Debate Round No. 1
Lookingatissues

Pro

lookingattheissues response: Jan.14Th.2017 on Debate.org,, under Politics to tumeric
( Anti war protests of th 60s ) and who some of the radicals were and where they ended up doing later on in their lives

Wellesley College, Hillary Clinton, 1965-1969
1969 Student Commencement Speech
by Hillary D. Rodham (now Hillary Rodham Clinton)
May 31, 1969
Wellesley College
"......The question about possible and impossible was one that we brought with us to Wellesley four years ago...." 1965-1969
Democrats, Bill and Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton president Hillary Clinton, First lady,1993-2001
( Anti war protests of th 60s ) and who some of the radicals were and where they ended up doing later on in their lives.
Bill Ayers " Spouse Bernardine Dohrn
Bill Ayers: Bernardine Rae Dohrn (n"e Ohrnstein; born January 12, 1942) is a former leader of the Weather Underground,
Bernardine Dohrn - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org...\l "
Bill Ayers
William Charles "Bill" Ayers is an American elementary education theorist and a former leader in the counterculture movement who opposed US involvement in the Vietnam War. He is known for his 1960s radical activism and his current work in education reform,
Bill Ayers"....He is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago..."
Radicals/democrat professors and teachers in public education

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SNOPES
Commentary WALLSTREET JOURNAL
Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
By
Stanley Kurtz Updated Sept. 23, 2008 12:01 a.m. ET
" Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists....."
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Confirmed: Bill Ayers Hosted a Fundraiser for Obama
/tipsheet/tipsheet/guybenson
Guy Benson |
Posted: Nov 30, 2011
"......there's the pesky fact that Obama and Ayers served together on the board of the Woods Fund for three years"and continued to do so even after Ayers was quoted in the New York Times fondly recalling his days as a bomber, and despairing that he hadn't "done more." (This quote, the Obama fact sheet reminds us, comes from an interview that just happened to be published on 9/11"Ayers had made the incendiary remarks earlier. I don't know about you, but that makes me feel a lot better). The funds Obama and Ayers helped control at the Woods Foundation funneled thousands of dollars into both Khalidi's organization and the now-infamous Trinity United Church of Christ..."
Reverent J. Wright Obama's pastor for 20 Years, said,
" No,No, not God Bless America, but God Damn America....."
And which political party did these radicals belong to, The democrat party.
tumeric

Con

First, anti-war protesting isn't radical just because Wall Street Journal commentators declare it to be.

What is radical is claiming that the USA has been in a state of moral decline for decades. (All republicans)
Inviting foreign adversaries to cyber-attack US politicians (Trump)
Claiming the ISIS is a United States project (Trump)
Declaring that NATO is irrelevant (Trump)
Claiming that the CIA doesn't know anything (Trump)
Making here today, gone tomorrow promises, which guarantee that any deal with the US means nothing and that our allies shouldn't trust us (Trump)
Taking congressional action that lowers the US credit rating an therefore raises our debt (Republicans)

How many other ways will Republicans continue to weaken the United States in front of the rest of the world?
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Lookingatissues 12 months ago
Lookingatissues
lookingattheissues part # 2 response to Con
Barack H. Obama doesn't follow or believe in what George Washington adviced or just didn't think America was worth saving or protecting in his views.
Barack H. Obama ".... While "resetting" with Russia and "engaging" with Iran, Obama has presided over a tremendous down-sizing of U.S. military strength...."
".....President Obama has reined in development and deployment of ballistic missile defenses. The president cut all advanced missile defense programs designed to keep the United States ahead of the ballistic missile threat in the future...."
".....Russia immediately exploited that weakness in negotiations over the New START. The final agreement allowed Russia to build up its nuclear arsenal, while requiring a significant reduction in U.S. nuclear warheads and delivery systems...."
From..... THE DAILY SIGNAL
"Under Obama, Our Military"s Strength Has Significantly Decreased"
James Carafano From..... THE DAILY SIGNAL
CON ,".... How many other ways will Republicans continue to weaken the United States in front of the rest of the world ...."
When The Democrat President of the United States, Barack H. Obama, Capitulated and ridiculed America in front of other foreign countries and made statements like America "....has "failed to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world" and has "shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" towards its allies...." he has besmirched the stature and honor of the country and its citizens who put him in office as the President.
**Quote above from the Telegraph
Posted by Lookingatissues 12 months ago
Lookingatissues
lookingattheissues2's Response to Con
( A ) First, anti-war protesting isn't radical just because Wall Street Journal commentators declare it to be.
( A ) lookingattheissues response: Radicals: SDS was taken over by (student radicals Al Haber and Tom Hayden,) both of the University of Michigan. In June 1962, fifty-nine SDS members met with Harrington at Port Huron, Michigan,.....From this meeting materialized what has been called the manifesto of the New Left-the Port Huron Statement. Written by Hayden, the editor of the University of Michigan student newspaper,......" Quote from....
"The Anti-War Movement in the United States"
Mark Barringer

CON: ( B ) " What is radical is claiming that the USA has been in a state of moral decline for decades."
("All Republicans ")

( B ) lookingattheissues2 response to CON:
What is " radical, " is the elite intelligenica of America knowing about the state of moral decay and degeneration thats been going on for so long and yet refusing to make any meaningful effort to change the conditions which leads one to believe that they, the elite acquiesce in the present debacle taking place in America.
( C ) Inviting foreign adversaries to cyber-attack US politicians (Trump) "
( C ) lookingattheissues2's response to CON,
What invites attacks of any kind by foreign countries is the belief that America is a "Paper Tiger," and that the countries leaders lacks the will and the ability to do anything about aggressive actions from its enemies.
President George Washington said this about a nation being able to defend its self from insult,( Attacks. )
" If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to
secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it
must be known, that we are at all times ready for War."
George Washington
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Barack H. Obama doesn't follow or believe in what George Washin
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